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salvificblood

Worst Sub-Zero Ever
sub's ice ball freezes the opponent for 10 more frames so now you can at least get a slide in! i'm guessing that's what you're experiencing. if he froze an opponent in the air from full screen, he'd get nothing. if he froze an opponent on the ground from full screen he may or may not get a slide.
I just double checked and I was somehow playing on the unpatched version of the game again... the dash is still slow, lol. I was happy for a second and then disappointed.
 

Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
Mileena-Reptile is a 7-3, because the EX slide buff helps him get in only a little, but building the meter is still difficult for Reptile, anyway, and he still does not have an answer for telekick without meter, since instant air sai jails him on standblock and his punishment on crouchblock is 99.9% negligible.
Can't you punish with d1~slide?

@TomBrady, they already hotfixed the Noob df3 tackle to be an overhead for all costumes. They fixed it the same day the patch was released. I played against it that night. No need to ban Noob MK2 costume or anything yet. Still need to test Freddy proj immunity glitch.
 

ZeroEffect

Warrior
Besides if it's really that easy for Mileena, what reason would she have not to just tele kick->sai->tele kick->sai etc.?
Well first, telekick can be interrupted on startup. Secondly, she does get some advantage with telekick>airsai, but not enough to spam the move. Reptile can escape it with elbow dash, beat it clean with charging EN Forceball, or just low poke her out of it if she's getting predictable. Even if he's forced to block it, Mileena doesn't get guaranteed pressure because dash is fast enough to interrupt most of her slower non high normals. It becomes a mind game for both almost.

You really can't win this matchup with teleick airsai alone, but this advantage, (although unfortunate for Reptile players), does make it so she has an edge. This tactic combined with her zoning was hard for him to get through, but with the armor on his EN slide, he now has an option to cross the screen quickly and attack that he didn't before. Don't get me wrong, I'm not starting a "Reptile is OP" argument here, but he has the damage and the tools to pressure even Mileena once he's in. It's not free for her... at all.
 

Tim Static

Adminerator
Lead Moderator
Can't you punish with d1~slide?

@TomBrady, they already hotfixed the Noob df3 tackle to be an overhead for all costumes. They fixed it the same day the patch was released. I played against it that night. No need to ban Noob MK2 costume or anything yet. Still need to test Freddy proj immunity glitch.
We fixed the ban list, but several people have confirmed the Freddy proj glitch is gone too fyi
 

grandabx

The Flameater
when i heard there was a big surprise for jade, i thought they were going to make her overhead special faster. she has ZERO ways to condition a player to block that molasses-slow attack. subz's normal ground freeze should've been sped up too. how come nothing was done to sindel's flight? sheeva's single foot stomp lefted untouched as well(i can press block 3 times before that more is active). i HATE USELESS MOVES!! what the fuck's the point of making them if they're not going to be used? thank goodness for blazblue.

lichi faye-ling = what jade wants to be when she grows up.
 

Husteen

Noob.
when i heard there was a big surprise for jade, i thought they were going to make her overhead special faster. she has ZERO ways to condition a player to block that molasses-slow attack. subz's normal ground freeze should've been sped up too. how come nothing was done to sindel's flight? sheeva's single foot stomp lefted untouched as well(i can press block 3 times before that more is active). i HATE USELESS MOVES!! what the fuck's the point of making them if they're not going to be used? thank goodness for blazblue.

lichi faye-ling = what jade wants to be when she grows up.
all those moves have enough useless appeal that they're quite the opposite when used strategically, i.e. not moves that you can randomly throw out or activate just because they're cool.
sub zero can combo into his ground ice
sheeva's stomp isn't THAT slow + it's unblockable
jade's overhead isn't THAT slow - and if it is then it's not online
and i use sindel's levitate a lot

from what i've seen, jade is on her way to being as bad as mileena. even when people block her overhead she still continues her combo with, i think it's B2, dash, two punches, and a bunch of shadow kicks. so she can almost mash as much as mileena and still be relatively safe.
 

Sasuga

Kombatant
Does the negative edge tweak make a difference for Rain players? eg. His round house cancel strings easier to execute without getting geyser kick all the time?
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
from what i've seen, jade is on her way to being as bad as mileena
I'd love to hear why Mileena is "bad". Enlighten me
Does the negative edge tweak make a difference for Rain players? eg. His round house cancel strings easier to execute without getting geyser kick all the time?
CD Jr posted that he was really happy w/the negative edge correction because he said he had issues rushing down w/D3 like he wanted
 

Rathalos

Play Monster Hunter!
I'd love to hear why Mileena is "bad". Enlighten me


CD Jr posted that he was really happy w/the negative edge correction because he said he had issues rushing down w/D3 like he wanted
I'm pretty sure he means bad as in to fight against, not that shes a shit character.
 

Shadowfire

Mortal
CD Jr posted that he was really happy w/the negative edge correction because he said he had issues rushing down w/D3 like he wanted
That's great to hear. I bet Jax's 1 2 won't cause a seemingly randomly selected move to come out after now.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
That's great to hear. I bet Jax's 1 2 won't cause a seemingly randomly selected move to come out after now.
CDJr was talking about Rain's D3 and rushdown (as far as what post I'm referring to). I haven't seen any of his posts regarding Jax
 

Shadowfire

Mortal
No I understand, just the negative edge screwups for the two of them were very similar so I'd be surprised if Jax's weren't gone now too.
 

Marcus

Mortal Kombat Philippines / Injustice Philippines
Does the negative edge tweak make a difference for Rain players? eg. His round house cancel strings easier to execute without getting geyser kick all the time?
I hope it does make a big one. Its been a real pain rushing with 33 RHcancel. That damn geyser kick.
 

Husteen

Noob.
I'd love to hear why Mileena is "bad". Enlighten me
i don't mean mileena is a "bad" character ^.^
i mean mileena is the best masher in the game. she can use whatever attack/special she wants randomly and not really get in any big trouble for it, unless it's a blocked roll. i was saying the same is pretty much true for jade.
for example, how many mileenas have you seen get an U4 blocked and then they do ANOTHER one?! the smart thing to do would be use B3 into roll but they just keep mashing out the combo because it will connect eventually. same with jade. her overhead gets blocked, she'll continue the combo as if it connected.

p.s. i would use rain online and input my combo at normal pace, 4, 3, lightning, and STILL get a geyser kick at the end for like 15% instead of the 40% i was going to get! very annoying. i like how *negative edge tweak* is considered a rain buff XD
 

AU_IM_DIGIMON

Kombatant
Husteen - yeah I pretty much thought what you thought, since I remember hotfix patches coming out on other weekdays too. But we'll see. Crossin fingers for tomorrow.
 

RamenO

It Stinks!
i don't mean mileena is a "bad" character ^.^
i mean mileena is the best masher in the game. she can use whatever attack/special she wants randomly and not really get in any big trouble for it, unless it's a blocked roll. i was saying the same is pretty much true for jade.
for example, how many mileenas have you seen get an U4 blocked and then they do ANOTHER one?! the smart thing to do would be use B3 into roll but they just keep mashing out the combo because it will connect eventually. same with jade. her overhead gets blocked, she'll continue the combo as if it connected.
Difference there is that Jade pretty much has to cancel into the overhead(or now the staff grab) because her B1 starter is so damn unsafe and her alternative(neutral 3) isn't much of a hit confirm.

Anyway, can't wait for this patch. I've pretty much given up attempting to learn new things in training mode or learn any new setups because of how drastically Stryker might be. :)

Hope it hits PS3 sometime soon. I'd actually like to attempt to learn Freddy now.
 

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
Husteen - yeah I pretty much thought what you thought, since I remember hotfix patches coming out on other weekdays too. But we'll see. Crossin fingers for tomorrow.
Yea, lets hope so. I don't want to play until the patch comes out. One more thing, is your friends list full? Let me know with a pm or something, I'd like to play you again sometime. (I played you at CH3 last)
 

Shadowfire

Mortal
360 users also have to pay for the privilege of using Microsoft's equally crappy multiplayer network. I'm fine with a little wait in exchange for free online.

Well, a little wait, plus egregious privacy breaches and a TOS that prevents class action lawsuits.....