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Ultra allows a switch on character switch.
I just read this in Toms voice.
NO! This is completely wrong. Characters in SF have ultra once or twice per round... And just having it changes the matchup. You don't need to land it to make it change how your opponent plays. Abel or Chun with ultra 1 makes throwing fireballs extremely risky.
I think it's clear you want the best for the game and you seem like you are willing to listen to reason. Please consider this example/line of reasoning - it's fine if you ultimately disagree but please be open and consider it.
Honest question, did Japanese players start with variation unlock earlier in the games life or was it changed at a later time?
It is still a discussion because there is a game .... with the same premise of variations.... that doesn't do what your'e describing.
Started lock, ended up getting changed to being able to switch after JP players saw it benefitted the meta & how much fun the game was. They pushed for it so hard the devs made it so you could switch variations in later versions of the game.
But hey... we want to reinvent the wheel.
That's obvious as it is a completely different set.
Resetting the bracket means both players can pick their character as it's a new set.
Thanks didn't know that.
If as you said we must treat each variation as a unique character then the winner has just 2 chars at his disposal to "counterpick" whatever variation the loser choose from a total of 90. I mean is not like the winner has every single variation at his hands just 2 from 90. If you keep variation lock it increase the chances of the loser by a great margin because he now has 90 variations at his disposal instead of the 30 in MK9; the chances of finding a 7-3 or even an 8-2 matchup in his favor are a lot bigger (x3). So this could happen: the loser now wins the second match with a great margin and then the third match is taken by the first match winner, again with a great margin.
Because "counter picking has just always been a part of fighting games". It's some sacred, mysterious art form that has existed for eons, and any attempt to revisit it is sacrilege, even if new games come out with systems designed specifically to counter it. It's an ancient tradition from a dark time when games only had one variation per character, and as we all know, you should never, under any circumstances, update an ancient tradition for the modern world.
To put it in a less sarcastic way, @Montanx, fighting games have had counterpicking since the start, but some games in recent history are attempting to introduce systems that encourage regulation of counterpicking, like with Melty Blood and Arcana Heart. Mortal Kombat X falls into this boat as well. There's nothing but benefits from it, but a largely traditional crowd doesn't feel like it's right.
Who's being sarcastic? I've converted. I'm now a full-fledged member of the Cult of Counterpick. Hail Satan!
Ok I see that. I personally think it should be no more complicated than "Best of 3 matches, after each match you can pick whoever you want.". BUT, that may lead to an annoying game of "we are both going to sit here not picking because I want to see who he picks so I can counterpick." and having both players just stall like morons.
bro you need to chill this is a discussion not a end all be all and honestly i think it should be ran like cvs 2 in that game winner didn't get to change anything the whole point of the three variations is to basically make your pick a counter pick if one of the variations is good against there type. example would be kotal blood omen is ass against kano's commando but his other is really good at making the match up even or in his favor why should the loser have to deal with a possible oh i know this beats his but he wants to change that will only drag out the set in the long run
