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Which day of the week would you like to meet up for casuals at Foonzo?


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Chuckychuck

Warrior
Completely disagree.

Top player right now at our locals (that shows regularly) is Krys. No doubt about it.

He wins week in and week out, was season 1 champ for IGAU and MK9. Displays MU knowledge, good footsies, zoning and converts at a very high level.

Day 1 player or not, he is our number one guy currently without a doubt, imo.
Do you consider yourself a top player in IGAU? and MK9? You don't have to answer this but it's the essence of my initial posting just above.

Right now the scene is divided between two games with some keeping in touch via TYM or Skype and others coming out to the local. When MKX drops all of us are going to be facing off against each other with a clean slate. It's going to be very interesting and this is why I don't think we can truly define who the top players are right now.

Just because Zaf and Jer don't play IGAU doesn't mean you can just ignore them. They have shown to be capable and have won the yearly M.A.T. MK9 tournaments. The actual yearly MK9 tournament.

I'll use @C-Sword as an example here and I hope he takes this as a compliment. His performance in MK9 I would say is middle of the pack. He beats people and he looses to people but he hasn't broken into the top 3 of any local thus far. IGAU on the other hand he does not play so we can't gauge his performance. Now there's one thing the IGAU players may have forgotten. C-Sword has arguably the best execution of our entire scene combined. With that in mind, I ask you, what if he had simply picked up Zod and IAZB'd the shit out of all of us and 50/50'd all of us from across the screen because #Trait? What would you think of him then if he execution alone allows him to play characters like Zod that nobody else can play?

Anyways, this is what I think about. I look at our scene and I notice qualities in players and little moments where I go "hah! I like seeing that, some other players who out perform you don't even do that! Good shit". While you can claim XYZ player is best in MK9 or IGAU I don't see it that way because of the many reasons I've already brought to light. At this point I'm just a curious cat thinking to the future and looking forward to seeing everyone bring their own skill set to a brand new game and see where we all stand.
 
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zaf

professor
MTL has top players for MK and for INJ.
Just like how the capcom brethren of ours have the tops for SF4 and for UMVC3.
 
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zaf

professor
According to Ecodus you and Jer are not top players because you do not win any of the locals.
I don't need to go to the locals to be a top player at MK. That has already been established.
The last local I went to, I didn't drop any sets either. I could literally go every week and win them all.
Only reason I ever even lost games to you at all was because your converter kept pausing the game, dropping my combos or letting you get free jump ins.
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
I don't need to go to the locals to be a top player at MK. That has already been established.
The last local I went to, I didn't drop any sets either. I could literally go every week and win them all.
Only reason I ever even lost games to you at all was because your converter kept pausing the game, dropping my combos or letting you get free jump ins.
My jump ins were swift and calculated. You did not see my feet lift off the ground before I hand landed upon your head with a metallic knuckle to the face.
 
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Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
According to Ecodus you and Jer are not top players because you do not win any of the locals.
Can you tell me at what point I said that Jer and Zaf aren't top players for Montreal? I'm pretty sure all I said was that for the players that currently show up to our local,my opinion is that Krys is our number 1 player.

All those d1s are messing up your ability to read!
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
Can you tell me at what point I said that Jer and Zaf aren't top players for Montreal? I'm pretty sure all I said was that for the players that currently show up to our local,my opinion is that Krys is our number 1 player.

All those d1s are messing up your ability to read!
It seems I'm unable to get my point across to you Ecodus.
 

Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
The strength of the half screen overhead doesn't even lie in it's ability to convert for big damage (although that is clearly one of it's advantages). It's real value lies in the ability to cancel it into Trident rush giving AM three fantastic options for different spacing to build the meter and chip people like crazy. It's also a very effective AA.

Up close d1~TR
footsies/sweep range b1,2~TR
jump range that huge overhead ~ TR
What do you think of f1,3~TR? It's safe prior to TR (3's neutral on block). I haven't checked to see if something can interrupt it since the gap within the first part of the string seems massive.

Can also cancel into shield with the overhead. I'm starting to appreciate that.
 

Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
What do you think of f1,3~TR? It's safe prior to TR (3's neutral on block). I haven't checked to see if something can interrupt it since the gap within the first part of the string seems massive.

Can also cancel into shield with the overhead. I'm starting to appreciate that.
I dont know that string off by heart. But if you can land it on block into TR... it's probably good lol.

What's the advantage of shield after the overhead? I don't think I've ever seen it done. Sounds swaggy?
 

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
I dont know that string off by heart. But if you can land it on block into TR... it's probably good lol.

What's the advantage of shield after the overhead? I don't think I've ever seen it done. Sounds swaggy?
Nothing. Going into shield means the opponent can back dash out of pressure. It's not the proper application of water shield
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
What do you think of f1,3~TR? It's safe prior to TR (3's neutral on block). I haven't checked to see if something can interrupt it since the gap within the first part of the string seems massive.

Can also cancel into shield with the overhead. I'm starting to appreciate that.
Why would you F1, 3~TR instead of simply doing D1~TR?
 

Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
"Now there's one thing the IGAU players may have forgotten. C-Sword has arguably the best execution of our entire scene combined. With that in mind, I ask you, what if he had simply picked up Zod and IAZB'd the shit out of all of us and 50/50'd all of us from across the screen because #Trait? What would you think of him then if he execution alone allows him to play characters like Zod that nobody else can play?"

Lol I just re read this and literally started dying... Chuck I have no idea where you get your ideas from but you should apologize for this statement.
 

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
I'm juat fishing for shit I find interesting.

@xQUANTUMx What IS the application of water shield?
Most of the time when I watch streams, I see water shield MB as an AA
Yes. AA, baiting and punishing a dash-in, absorbing damage from certain Interactables, or being able to absorb a hit and dash cancel out of in order to whiff punish a string. In certain situations you can wakeup with it and mb it to get your opponent off you. It's also + on block so you can pressure after if you choose to do so
 

Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
In short, cancelling into WS is at best a gimmick. Interesting - I'll try and keep that in mind. I'll have to check the Aqua forums to see if they've started a thread on which strings are whiff punishable after WS dash cancel though but that's definitely good knowledge to have going in this character.
 

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
In short, cancelling into WS is at best a gimmick. Interesting - I'll try and keep that in mind. I'll have to check the Aqua forums to see if they've started a thread on which strings are whiff punishable after WS dash cancel though but that's definitely good knowledge to have going in this character.
There is an old thread on it. The shortcoming of WS is the slow startup. Experience will tell you when to properly apply it
 

Pest0Swami

MTL's Worst Player.
Whoah, Uhmmm I wrote that half drunk and what I meant came out completely differently. I mean we need someone who plays a top tier character that 7-3's half of the players at the local. Complete the meta and all that.

EDIT: Was not trying to start a top player debate. It's obviously me, I just sandbag because I want you all to feel good about yourselves.
 
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