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rev0lver

Come On Die Young
Trait outranges anything that Sinestro has and it makes the opponents guess, which is a situation that Batman gets to control. Batman players are FAR worse at downplaying than I am. They'll have you believe that he isn't top 10.
While you know I agree with you about the Batman-Sinestro matchup, that might just be a Sinestro problem that is causing you to overrate the character overall. If his footsie game with bats was really so broke you'd probably see a lot more of the cast have issues, when they don't.

As far as Sinestro's viability, that's just the case with most characters in this game. But the reality is you just have one matchup you might have to counterpick in, and outside that you do well in every matchup in the game save for a couple 4-6's. If Zod was the only character that fucked me that'd still suck but I'd be happy with it lol.
 

cR WoundCowboy

WoundCowbae <3
It doesn't matter how good his pressure is when he doesn't have anything to mix you up. Injustice chip damage isn't like MK9. If you block a normal on MK9 you lose 1% chip damage, if you block a normal on Injustice you lose 0.1% chip damage. So it really doesn't matter if Batman is pressuring you like crazy and you block for 30 seconds, because you probably only lost about 5% chip damage or less in that 30 seconds and the Batman player just wasted all his meter and trait.

His bats are very good but not broken. They have 0 block stun so alot of characters can just mash while blocking them and hit Batman out of his pressure or jump in. His bats are better for whiff punishing and extending combos.

His zoning is good in certain matchups like Grundy Bane Shazam etc. But those characters all fuck him up when they get next to his so it's not that bad. His zoning isn't anything near Zod or Martian or even Cyborg for that matter. He can really only zone against like 10 characters or less, the other 20 characters or more in the cast outzone him or bypass his zoning very easily

His jump is insane, but it can still be anti-aired by almost half the cast. And when you think about it, it doesn't really matter if you block his jump in, what is he going to do? A low attack or mid into trait cancel, then he can extend his pressure with MB batarangs and hit you with more lows and mids. Almost every string he has (b113, b112, 112, 113, f23) all have high attacks in them and can be ducked for a full combo punish. But it doesn't matter because he doesn't have any overheads, so you can literally just block him all day until he runs out of meter. He needs meter to keep his pressure going but it in the end it doesn't matter if he keeps his pressure going because chip damage is very minimal in Injustice and Batman can't open you up with mixups unless you can't react to a 30 frame F3
I have never once in my year and a half of playing and watching injustice seen somebody who blocks everything that batman does. Lol you are famous for the gif where king jr blocks for 30 seconds and you STILL won. Batman doesn't need mixups to win but even then, EVERYBODY messes up eventually. @coolwhip i still don't see the logic.
 

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
Right, i CHOSE not to punish you. That doesn't even sound right. Other sinestro players do not punish you consistently, otherwise you would be losing badly. In any event, you lost to me. Nothing was proven.
What are you talking about? All sinestros punish catdashes. So stop making excuses. Yeah you won 3-5 and yet it suppose to be a bad mu right? Yeah I didn't see it. Emperor murk beat your sinestro. So I guess he never prove anything either because he beat you in a so called 3-7 mu and it was ONLINE which you going to make a excuse when pig said when you play in these online events do not make up excuses.

Which you have tons of.

And if you say murk prove that the mu is not a 3-7 because he beat me in a first to 5 ( when it suppose to he highly in your favor!!!) then you would contradict yourself because he beat you 5-3 and you beat me 5-3 proving this mu is not bad at alllllll!!!!

When you also reply please do not bring up Catwoman has online advantage which she doesn't. All character can punish her catdash.

Online advantage is when a move is -22 and my character cannot punish it.

All my character move can be punish. Plus you play online faithfully.

If you miss the opportunity to miss to punish the catdash then that is your fault.

Dont bring up ps3. Xbox online is better so keep the conversation on xbox online only.

I can't wait to read this
 

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
Cyborg beats Grundy 7-3 and beats almost all of the C Tiers but hes still F tier?
Catwoman only loses 5 mu and she is C tier? Like I said this coming from a person that doesn't really know our characters. A opinion chart. Which I respect but you will here my mouth if I see something wrong.
 

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
I mean, from what cavemen experienced the world was flat but that *gasp* wasn't true. I'm not talking about an otg vortex. You literally aren't even comprehending what I'm talking about, so I'll try and explain.

The world is round. It's soooo big we can't even tell with the naked eye.

Thankfully Ra Helios most people aren't like you and are able to understand what is being said to them. It became a well known fact the earth was actually round and Ferdinand Magellan was the first to sail around the world in order to prove this theory to be true.

Crazy right? Hopefully this lesson in history will help you realize Catwoman has big problems in the offline world that you don't experience in your cave.
European history. semitic people and african people been knew the earth was already round and they didnt need to sail the sea. This was wayyyyyyyyy before Ferdinand Magellon. Even the semitic bible (Holy bible) will tell you the earth is round.

Semitic people and african people did a lot of science and astrology.


Even African civilization egypt knew the earth was round. The only nation of people that really discovered it late are the Europeans.

Wow you probably was thinking I didn't know history.


When it comes to history that matters. Don't mess with me.
 

cR WoundCowboy

WoundCowbae <3
What are you talking about? All sinestros punish catdashes. So stop making excuses. Yeah you won 3-5 and yet it suppose to be a bad mu right? Yeah I didn't see it. Emperor murk beat your sinestro. So I guess he never prove anything either because he beat you in a so called 3-7 mu and it was ONLINE which you going to make a excuse when pig said when you play in these online events do not make up excuses.

Which you have tons of.

And if you say murk prove that the mu is not a 3-7 because he beat me in a first to 5 ( when it suppose to he highly in your favor!!!) then you would contradict yourself because he beat you 5-3 and you beat me 5-3 proving this mu is not bad at alllllll!!!!

When you also reply please do not bring up Catwoman has online advantage which she doesn't. All character can punish her catdash.

Online advantage is when a move is -22 and my character cannot punish it.

All my character move can be punish. Plus you play online faithfully.

If you miss the opportunity to miss to punish the catdash then that is your fault.

Dont bring up ps3. Xbox online is better so keep the conversation on xbox online only.

I can't wait to read this
I've literally said nothing about Murk proving something. I don't put stock in using short online sets to prove a mu number. As for the punishing thing, I don't know what to tell you. I punish CW consistently offline and i can't do it online. There is a clear difference. And yea i do play online consistently. However, very few people have a connection as bad as yours.
 
I've literally said nothing about Murk proving something. I don't put stock in using short online sets to prove a mu number. As for the punishing thing, I don't know what to tell you. I punish CW consistently offline and i can't do it online. There is a clear difference. And yea i do play online consistently. However, very few people have a connection as bad as yours.

Clearly you are discriminating against the ancient semitic race

WOUNDRACIST
 

DarkFire*

Your halo is mine.
European history. semitic people and african people been knew the earth was already round and they didnt need to sail the sea. This was wayyyyyyyyy before Ferdinand Magellon. Even the semitic bible (Holy bible) will tell you the earth is round.

Semitic people and african people did a lot of science and astrology.


Even African civilization egypt knew the earth was round. The only nation of people that really discovered it late are the Europeans.

Wow you probably was thinking I didn't know history.


When it comes to history that matters. Don't mess with me.
But Ra Helios, do you believe in magic yet?
 

Slips

Feared by dragons. Desired by virgins.
European history. semitic people and african people been knew the earth was already round and they didnt need to sail the sea. This was wayyyyyyyyy before Ferdinand Magellon. Even the semitic bible (Holy bible) will tell you the earth is round.

Semitic people and african people did a lot of science and astrology.


Even African civilization egypt knew the earth was round. The only nation of people that really discovered it late are the Europeans.

Wow you probably was thinking I didn't know history.


When it comes to history that matters. Don't mess with me.

....and somehow you still managed to miss the entire point. :(
 

GuamoKun

I Break Hearts, Not Combos
European history. semitic people and african people been knew the earth was already round and they didnt need to sail the sea. This was wayyyyyyyyy before Ferdinand Magellon. Even the semitic bible (Holy bible) will tell you the earth is round.

Semitic people and african people did a lot of science and astrology.


Even African civilization egypt knew the earth was round. The only nation of people that really discovered it late are the Europeans.

Wow you probably was thinking I didn't know history.


When it comes to history that matters. Don't mess with me.
 

haketh

Noob
European history. semitic people and african people been knew the earth was already round and they didnt need to sail the sea. This was wayyyyyyyyy before Ferdinand Magellon. Even the semitic bible (Holy bible) will tell you the earth is round.

Semitic people and african people did a lot of science and astrology.


Even African civilization egypt knew the earth was round. The only nation of people that really discovered it late are the Europeans.

Wow you probably was thinking I didn't know history.


When it comes to history that matters. Don't mess with me.


Bruh
 

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
I have never once in my year and a half of playing and watching injustice seen somebody who blocks everything that batman does. Lol you are famous for the gif where king jr blocks for 30 seconds and you STILL won. Batman doesn't need mixups to win but even then, EVERYBODY messes up eventually. @coolwhip i still don't see the logic.
Take this scenario for example:

Flash vs Batman start the match, round 1 begin! The Flash goes in and mixes Batman up, does d12~flash kick and uses a bar of meter and trait to do a 60% combo. Now that Flash has full white bar and Batman only has 40% white bar, at this point what is stopping the Flash from playing patient and lame all the way until the timer runs out, never approaching Batman again for the rest of the game?

The Flash can just speed dodge all of Batman's zoning, so Flash will be taking 0 damage unless Batman can get in. But Flash's d2 beats Batman's j2 consistently, like 99% of the time. So Batman cannot jump in at all, he can't zone at all, and if the Flash player has good defense he can just block Batman's mix-ups all day while teching grabs and Batman will NEVER catch up from that 60% life lead. Flash can literally get the first combo of the match, then block and anti-air until the timer runs out while letting Batman hang himself and Flash will win the game.

That is only one example, another example is Wonder Woman getting the first hit of the match then sitting across the screen d3'ing under all zoning and d2'ing all of Batman's jump attacks. What is Batman supposed to do? Many characters in the game (ESPECIALLY if they have a good d2) once they get the life lead vs Batman can just sit back and zone, or not even just zone but sit back and block all the way until the timer runs out and there is nothing Batman can do about it because he doesn't have ways to consistently open anyone up.
 

haketh

Noob
Isn't that pretty much how the DS MU goes for Bats if DS gets the first hit? Try to zone get shot, try to jump get D2d.
 

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
I've literally said nothing about Murk proving something. I don't put stock in using short online sets to prove a mu number. As for the punishing thing, I don't know what to tell you. I punish CW consistently offline and i can't do it online. There is a clear difference. And yea i do play online consistently. However, very few people have a connection as bad as yours.
Your connection is bad because you live to far. But I never complain. But anyway you never tried. If a basic person knows the fundamentals of the game and punish a catdash why cant you? You never even tried..
 

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
Isn't that pretty much how the DS MU goes for Bats if DS gets the first hit? Try to zone get shot, try to jump get D2d.
Yeah, Deathstroke is another character that can use this strategy against Batman. Batman cannot zone at all because Deathstroke's anti zoning is too good. So if Deathstroke gets the first combo of the match, sits back and anti zones while d2'ing all jump ins and blocking all of Batman's mixups there isn't much Batman can do to make up the life lead