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Match-up Discussion Deathstroke vs Flash (Hot topic that must be discussed)

Blind_Ducky

Princess of the Sisterhood
Who said flash outfootsies him? and can we get out of here with that bill that flash's footsies aren't that good lol. He has one of the best walk speeds in the game and one of the best dashes. If you want me to specify for DS vs flash I can name things flash can do to halt DS.
*Flash can beat j3 with his j2 and his d2 and he can beat jump back 3 with his upwards/horizontal headbut.
*DS's D2 can be beat by sonic pound and whiff punished with other normals like b2.
I could go on if you like.
Ugh zyphox just said flash outfootsies him. You liked the post!

Anyway I didn't say his footsies aren't that good. I'm just saying I don't think flash outfootsies ds.
 
Ugh zyphox just said flash outfootsies him. You liked the post!

Anyway I didn't say his footsies aren't that good. I'm just saying I don't think flash outfootsies ds.
I just liked the post mainly for the discussion and that he was bringing up points for the argument of flash winning. I didn't say flash outfootsies him........ and like I said, the footsie matchup is fairly even for the most part. I'm trying to see why people think that DS not being able to use his guns as much isn't a problem. Now if DS is better up close (like he is vs raven) then that is different. But DS isn't better up close than flash unfortunately :(. I respect your opinion though and glad you are in the discussion.
 

Blind_Ducky

Princess of the Sisterhood
I just liked the post mainly for the discussion and that he was bringing up points for the argument of flash winning. I didn't say flash outfootsies him........ and like I said, the footsie matchup is fairly even for the most part. I'm trying to see why people think that DS not being able to use his guns as much isn't a problem. Now if DS is better up close (like he is vs raven) then that is different. But DS isn't better up close than flash unfortunately :(. I respect your opinion though and glad you are in the discussion.
Yeah that's what I'm trying to say. I think deathstroke does fine in footsies and I also don't see any reason he doesn't do well upclose. Just gets slightly less damage than flash without trait depending on the launcher and if there's a bgb or whatever.
 

TKB

Noob
Who said flash outfootsies him? and can we get out of here with that bill that flash's footsies aren't that good lol. He has one of the best walk speeds in the game and one of the best dashes. If you want me to specify for DS vs flash I can name things flash can do to halt DS.
*Flash can beat j3 with his j2 and his d2 and he can beat jump back 3 with his upwards/horizontal headbut.
*DS's D2 can be beat by sonic pound and whiff punished with other normals like b2.
I could go on if you like.
I've actually been able to d2 flash out of sonic pound before, more than once. Was this luck? Lol
 
I've actually been able to d2 flash out of sonic pound before, more than once. Was this luck? Lol
You actually can, but it depend on the spacing/situation. I've done it too :p.
Yeah that's what I'm trying to say. I think deathstroke does fine in footsies and I also don't see any reason he doesn't do well upclose. Just gets slightly less damage than flash without trait depending on the launcher and if there's a bgb or whatever.
Yeah DS isn't horrible up close, it is just annoying having to jump around and spam d2s all day lol, In my match vs DJT at evo that was all I was doing for the most part. (DJT would've won if he hit the trait combo :p)
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
You just said flash outfootsies ds in one of your posts. That's called the player outplaying his opponent. I'm just talking about tools.
you're right, but i don't see how a character with a long range tool like LC and B2/F2 and a way to full combo dash ins for 55%+ loses a footsie battle in terms of tools.
 

Mr Aquaman

Armored Launcher
Administrator
Premium Supporter
@HoneyBee
@Zyphox

Stop wasting your time. You are arguing with stubborn fools who sincerely believe that Deathstroke is a top 5 character who goes 5:5 with the best characters in the game and beats everybody else.

This forum is known for its delusions.
For once I agree with the general, thank you for your car insurance, as well as your chicken in Undercover Brother, as well as ds policing. I've seen this MU in a lot of tournaments and it's never been pretty. At the highest, or even the lowest level.
 
For once I agree with the general, thank you for your car insurance, as well as your chicken in Undercover Brother, as well as ds policing. I've seen this MU in a lot of tournaments and it's never been pretty. At the highest, or even the lowest level.
Tbh, he exaggerates the DS community/ generalizes it, but I agree with him that flash wins vs DS tho. If anything, he is a deputy at best, his sheriff status can't be granted until he admits DS is a solid character that isn't "low mid". #YEEEAAPPP Also this MU isn't horrible like I have stated, DS doesn't get 7 3'd by anyone.
 

Blind_Ducky

Princess of the Sisterhood
you're right, but i don't see how a character with a long range tool like LC and B2/F2 and a way to full combo dash ins for 55%+ loses a footsie battle in terms of tools.
Deathstroke has all those tools as well. You basically just listed a complete set of footsie tools. Even catwoman has all that. The difference is flash gets slightly greater reward for being successful in footsies.
 

PND_Ketchup

"More deadly than the dawn"
I don't have the experience you guys do with DS, I barely play Injustice anymore.

That said, I feel like it's tough for Deathstroke, but Flash HAS to respect that J3. If he doesn't, Deathstroke can create somewhat of a wall that can at least be hitconfirmed into sword flip/setup. That's just based on my experience though, I don't play top Flash players. Rebellious is good and I used to play him a tiny bit.
 

TKB

Noob
Tbh, he exaggerates the DS community/ generalizes it, but I agree with him that flash wins vs DS tho. If anything, he is a deputy at best, his sheriff status can't be granted until he admits DS is a solid character that isn't "low mid". #YEEEAAPPP Also this MU isn't horrible like I have stated, DS doesn't get 7 3'd by anyone.
To be fair, he did apologize for his blatant downplaying in 16bits thread :p but he takes it a little too far.
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
out of curiosity what footsie tools does ds have? i picked the game back up and immediately dropped ds because i felt he was lacking. his d2 can be stuffed if you time it right and he has t-rex hand normals. just curious.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Deathstroke has all those tools as well. You basically just listed a complete set of footsie tools. Even catwoman has all that. The difference is flash gets slightly greater reward for being successful in footsies.
Fool, The Flash does 50% after d+1,2 and 55% after f+2, with massive corner carry and meter building. Catwoman's options are not comparable. Besides, The Flash has superior movement and deals better with back walking and back dashes.

Deathstroke most likely loses to 4-6 characters. This absurd up playing must stop.