Oh btw I just realised she does 60% meterless, as does Batgirl in particular situations into bola and therefore vortex setup. Shield stance 2 a bad normal? Yeah it's 16 frames startup but it's got decent reach and it's +8 on block lol
I think it is probably the worst, but it's still unsafe. But yeah it's not completely foolproof, even ground eye lasers can be jumped over
Close to equal but Supes tends to win out more, might be because of the angle or the angle of his jump?
Come on, you can't list one of the weaknesses of a projectile as "you can jump over it" haha
We went even! Get out of here kid. Keep mashing buttonsShut up about Wonder Woman lol stay free to my supes it's probably top 5also supermans jump 1 is the best
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I can and I will
can't do damage if it can't touch me!
I need to get a ps2 pad or fix my hitbox I have a USB cable issue where it's not registering the hitbox
Wouldn't it be floatspeed :3
It doesn't matter if his lasers are positive, he is pushed to far back so the nerf of f2 makes it whiff. Also his f23 breath doesn't matter if you, dash forward, super punch, jump (why would you jump!?), etc. They are out of pressure and if you make the wrong read, its like being punished for pressuring! His lasers are easily back dashed as well. The startup of heat zap is easily beat by many things. Tiara, oro's rocket, black magic, from the deep, quickfire, etc. you can duck it as well. don't even get me started on air heat vision. if it whiffs Supes is in trouble. for god's sake, ares can jump over it (MB) teleport to the other side and punish it. Shazzam can actually jump over it too and hit with an atlas torpedo. His 50/50s are unsafe, his otgs are unsafe. He has put in a lot of work to get them into the corner.
This shit is absolutely hilarious to me because Doomsday has all these problems but so much worse. I have to spend a bar for this pressure. You get it after F23. Watching people complain about Superman's pressure is ridiculous to me. Like I'll take your F23 breath pressure, divepunch set ups, and damage, and you can have Earthshaker and Venom. Have fun getting bodied for making one wrong read.
Your spent meter is worth it cause you are in range as well as positive. Earthshaker is also safe even when blocked. 3,3 is..what? +10? So your opponent's options are limited making it in your favor. He also has one of the best throw ranges of the game. His trait lets him say STFU as he comes charging in. Sure there are ways to counter it, but there are also ways to counter their counters.
Yeah but what does he have after that?!
No you're saying f23 is bad and I'm calling you stupid because literally every way you listed you can get out of F23 breath you can do to get out of pressure after venom. I'm taking the same exact risk after MB venom that you are after F23, but your reward is amazing, while mine is only 12-20%. Your character is fucking amazing. Please don't complain when I'm sure Ares players would kill for a F23 breath that was even -2.
Joker does...
Supes is also the only character who doesn't have a projectile that does not stay on screen when he is hit.
I wish GA had a real 50/50.
I was only going to play GA if they had his classic costume. But this patch ruined him. He needed a damage buff.I wish GA had a real 50/50.
I wish GA had lows at all.
I wish d1 xx arrow, my super powerful 3% string wasn't pokeable.
I wish GA had an airdash/instant air dash/dive move that otgs/amazingly fast and useful backdash/fast advancing normals (compare Sups F2 to GA's F2).
I wish GA had a 6 frame poke that led to full combo without Frozen Arrow that's totally interruptable by jumps/MB B3/D1s.
I wish GA my J1 actually landed on crouching opponents and didn't have a tiny micro hitbox.
I wish GA had pressure that actually dealt damage, wasn't totally pokeable and had actual mix ups.
I wish GA had a projectile that left you plus a billion on block, that tracked the opponent, leave them full screen and also dealt 15% damage or whatever it is it deals.
I wish GA didn't have to wait half an hour to load an arrow in hopes of maybe landing a projectile that Sups gets for free, twice as much damage and much more advantage out of it.
I wish GA had Sups corner damage without stage gimmicks that people can wake up out of.
And I also wish there wasn't a campaign for the last year to try and convince us how GA was broken beyond belief, causing unnecessary nerf after nerf, and the responsible people to just delete the videos (and I quote "can we stop pretending this character isn't good because it has a 44% unclashable super") or not log in since September 2013.
I still love him though, would play GA 1000x times more than Superman.
Ares' trait doesn't either, but yeah, you're right.
No I'm saying f23 isn't as good as it was. There are other characters that do supes' job better. But the fact a simple jump gets your opponent to safety after working hard to get them there is ludicrous.
"Working hard".
