Yoaks
A spaceman
I do!!! It's 10-0 KF free!!!
I do!!! It's 10-0 KF free!!!
I don't like Killer Frost's design in general and Ares seems to lose more match ups than I kould have foreseen.. =/
What made you change your mind that catwoman has a advantage over killer frost?Its been a long year with this character. She was once deemed the best in the game at the very beginning, then took a couple huge nerfs (which barely made her top 10 if that), then got indirectly buffed in 1.06 (which made her top 5 in a lot of peoples eyes), and she is now in the top 10 discussion by 90% of the community. Before I give my take on her current position, I would first like to give my personal MU chart. I've been seriously thinking hard about every MU in the game and I think a lot of you will agree with it.
NO DOWNPLAYING NOR UPPLAYING IS HERE! This is truly how I feel.
Strong Advantage (7-3): Doomsday
Advantage (6-4): Aquaman, Ares, Joker, Lex, Lobo, Nightwing, Scorpion, Shazam, Sinestro
Slight Advantage (5.5-4.5): Batgirl, Catwoman, Green Arrow, Raven, Zatanna
Even (5-5): Bane, Black Adam, Batman, Deathstroke, Flash, Green Lantern, Harley Quinn, Grundy, Superman, Zod
Slight Disadvantage (4.5-5.5): Wonder Woman, HawkGirl
Disadvantage (4-6): Martian Manhunter, Cyborg.
Well, there you go. I had to be true to myself. I'm no longer that naive player whore swore up and down she was top 5 with one bad MU. Although she is a very good character, she clearly has weaknesses and a lot of the cast can exploit. But overall, I do believe she is a top 10 character that can hang with everyone in the cast.
And she needs trait cancels, the FTD hitbox on spike, and iaDaggers
Why and who have you played?
No that chart is still a joke. Khaotik has too much pride to accept that some matches are an uphill battle, you should assume that a number of the 5-5s there are only 5-5 on a good vortex day and are in general losing matches
Oh boohoo you can parried during your trait, stop acting like you can't bait and punish parries Doomsday has options you know
I dont think she beats Aquaman at all. People think she wins because on paper she gets round his trait and shuts down his from the deep but they dont think about his ability to just walk out of d1 frame-traps and stuff all her options with b12 repeatedly
Just yesterday and the day before I ran a long set with Gilbagz. He bodied me, but near the end I started to figure out what to do. Joker can't jump in because KF's anti-air is godlike. You can bait low parry and punish with spike into slide into vortex. Joker can't wakeup so meterless vortex is a viable option. Full screen the game is even as both can check with daggers and gun respectively (although spike is punished by gun on block). KF can slide underneath gun and even if you dash cancel it, you'll get hit because you can't block in time. True, in the corner it's GG's guess right or block Joker earthshaker, but since his jump is limited, he's relegated to playing footsies with b1 while KF can build trait as a massive eff you.
The Doomsday MU is seriously terrible. If you think it's anything better than 3.5-6.5 for Doomsday you've gotta level up scrub.
Parry at least makes Batgirl think on wakeup and she has some good wake-up stuffing moves she can use against her. But yeah I agree it is even. If either get their game going they probably win in all likelihood. Both more or less on equal footing and pretty similar playstyles to be honest.
But she still has db3 and the option to just block on wakeup. Especially since MB f3 is reactable and Frost's love to MB that on wakeup.
Going for a parry against Doomsday is a read! Doomsday is not forced to d1 earthshake her or anything and daggers can be venomed through onreaction. In the corner her wake-ups get reversed just like everyone else and you can't parry earthshaker, stop judging the match-up based on some horrible online Doomsday players and judge it based on Noobe
Exactly, like I said it makes her at least think on wakeup.
You parry charge on reaction. How is Doomsday meant to get it?
So...you think that's the only downside to the MU? Killer Frost practically shuts down his entire play style.
No she limits his play style to a small extent and needs meter to really get anything out of it anyway. Doomsday can still do sweeps, body splashes and throws and mix it up so is essentially still playing the game, how is that a 7-3 match-up
Because Killer Frost is such an excellent keepaway character and Doomsday needs to use venom charge to get in...
Gilbagz doesn't know the matchup like I do and you just beginning to learn the matchup does not mean you know it. This misconception in the community has to stop, I've been playing the matchup since day 1 and I'm still finding new things.
I'll take your word for it although I still think it's KF advantage. We'll have to run it at EVO.
It's as if myles is a very well known troll from the MK days that decides to ramble for 99 days but shows that he indeed knows something for that 1 day.
Hahahaha, honestly sometimes your posts are boring as fuck, but this time you made me laugh
. It's so funny that you live in that alter dimension world where DD beats KF and she is bottom to mid tier at best. Please continue to amuse us 
