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ShadowBeatz

Dropper of Bass and Bombs
I'm just speculating, but it's probably because they want to make it less "coin-flippy," which is stupid because then why aren't paralyzing moves and Confuse Ray also banned?

Good thing I don't plan on playing this game super-competitively :p
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
I'm just speculating, but it's probably because they want to make it less "coin-flippy," which is stupid because then why aren't paralyzing moves and Confuse Ray also banned?

Good thing I don't plan on playing this game super-competitively :p
Confuse does damage to yourself equal to your power if memory serves. Swagger increases your Attack. So thats why probably
 

ShadowBeatz

Dropper of Bass and Bombs
Confuse does damage to yourself equal to your power if memory serves. Swagger increases your Attack. So thats why probably
I know that, but if the "raised attack" thing was what did it, that's dumb because if you don't hurt yourself, your Attack, you know, is RAISED. But I'm a noob, so I'm probably missing something. Or not
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
I know that, but if the "raised attack" thing was what did it, that's dumb because if you don't hurt yourself, your Attack, you know, is RAISED. But I'm a noob, so I'm probably missing something. Or not
Its based on votes also. The ban what they want. And let other stuff that probably should be banned stay.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
It's because of the prankster + swagger combinations. Klefki could literally sweep a whole team if not prepared.

They were doing full team prankster+swagger setups.
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
It's because of the prankster + swagger combinations. Klefki could literally sweep a whole team if not prepared.

They were doing full team prankster+swagger setups.
Prankster is just a broken ability in general. Although a counter to it would be something along the lines of prankster Taunt. It fucks a lot of those kinda teams.
 
Prankster Whimsicot w/ Leftovers
Spore
Substitute
Leech Seed
Moonblast

That thing... can just go. Also in doubles with the standard Klefki... Infinite amount of "Offs" that those two can go fuck in tandem.
However if Swagger is banned fine. However what about its special attack equivalent? Flatter? And if the reason is "coin flippy" then we might as well ban Weather and Entry Hazards.

Sand Stream and Swift Swim can definitely be considered "coin flippy" for the person on the other side. Even if rain is only 5 turns we have Drizzle Suicune/Politoed who don't suck. And Sand Stream Tanks like Assault Vested Tyranitar and good ole Hippowdon.



And all of this wouldn't be an issue but how is Kyurem-B NOT banned? Explain... I want that explanation now. OU my ass.​
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Prankster Whimsicot w/ Leftovers
Spore
Substitute
Leech Seed
Moonblast

That thing... can just go. Also in doubles with the standard Klefki... Infinite amount of "Offs" that those two can go fuck in tandem.
However if Swagger is banned fine. However what about its special attack equivalent? Flatter? And if the reason is "coin flippy" then we might as well ban Weather and Entry Hazards.

Sand Stream and Swift Swim can definitely be considered "coin flippy" for the person on the other side. Even if rain is only 5 turns we have Drizzle Suicune/Politoed who don't suck. And Sand Stream Tanks like Assault Vested Tyranitar and good ole Hippowdon.



And all of this wouldn't be an issue but how is Kyurem-B NOT banned? Explain... I want that explanation now. OU my ass.​

I was asking myself the same question about some of the other pseudos today. (The fucking tornado trios)
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
I'm just speculating, but it's probably because they want to make it less "coin-flippy," which is stupid because then why aren't paralyzing moves and Confuse Ray also banned?

Good thing I don't plan on playing this game super-competitively :p
@xKhaoTik It's because with prankster users using swagger, not only does the amount of damage you could do to yourself in confusion go up every time it's used, since confusion damage is based off of attack/sp. attack power, but also the likelihood of you poke hitting itself everytime you are hit with it, making it increasingly more likely that your poke will take big time damage. Adding foul play on top of that made it really hard to survive an assault from swagger users, however swagger itself was definitely enough in a lot of situations. It's most common users like Klefki and Thundurus were able to paralyze as opponents as well and add more of a chance for hax, and making it more difficult still to do anything at all with your poke.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Won't be long before they think of another thing to ban i.e. Mega Charizard Y...
Charizard Y better not get banned, it has weaknesses in it's predictability and it's not wanting a damn thing to do with Stealth Rocks, but it's pros just outweigh it's cons so heavily that we are willing to work around them. He also is just so good he doesn't have to worry about most of his flaws a lot of the time. IMO the metagame is looking pretty clean at this point, and I think as is will be just fine. I can't really see anything at the time being who are really banworthy anymore, but I could be overlooking something
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Charizard Y better not get banned, it has weaknesses in it's predictability and it's not wanting a damn thing to do with Stealth Rocks, but it's pros just outweigh it's cons so heavily that we are willing to work around them. He also is just so good he doesn't have to worry about most of his flaws a lot of the time. IMO the metagame is looking pretty clean at this point, and I think as is will be just fine. I can't really see anything at the time being who are really banworthy anymore, but I could be overlooking something
How to Kill Charizard Y. Step 1. Stone Edge or Rock Slide. Step 2 Hit. Step 3 Its fucking dead.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Prankster Whimsicot w/ Leftovers
Spore
Substitute
Leech Seed
Moonblast

That thing... can just go. Also in doubles with the standard Klefki... Infinite amount of "Offs" that those two can go fuck in tandem.
However if Swagger is banned fine. However what about its special attack equivalent? Flatter? And if the reason is "coin flippy" then we might as well ban Weather and Entry Hazards.

Sand Stream and Swift Swim can definitely be considered "coin flippy" for the person on the other side. Even if rain is only 5 turns we have Drizzle Suicune/Politoed who don't suck. And Sand Stream Tanks like Assault Vested Tyranitar and good ole Hippowdon.



And all of this wouldn't be an issue but how is Kyurem-B NOT banned? Explain... I want that explanation now. OU my ass.​
What makes Kyurem banworthy? I don't see it. His attack is fucking ridiculous yes, but he hardly has any physical moves to work with at all. If you want to utilize the mixed attacking set you end up having to rely on his very mediocre speed and make yourself vulnerable to his very common weakness in the metagame.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Mega Charizard Y looks crazy but I heard Mega Charizard X was even deadlier. My dumbass chose bulbasaur -_- Mega Venasaur is good tho.


On a other note, I was doing wonder trading and I got a 5IV Lvl1 Jolly Gible :D
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Mega Charizard Y looks crazy but I heard Mega Charizard X was even deadlier. My dumbass chose bulbasaur -_- Mega Venasaur is good tho.


On a other note, I was doing wonder trading and I got a 5IV Lvl1 Jolly Gible :D
Seeems good. You can buy the Stones for the Starter you did no pick.