Its +3 and if you get it you can cross people up. It's perfectly fine.
If you AA them with it and you're on point you can combo them.
Its +3 and if you get it you can cross people up. It's perfectly fine.
Ugh. I just.. Would never do that. There are so many better options. You risk losing them. AA is a different story though.
i alwaysfelt that sub-zero and raiden were even especially raiden im just stubborn about sub-zero, and skarlet might be 4-6 and ermac might be 6-4
Its not something to do everytime, I'll agree to that. It is a useful gimmick though.
After playing a long set with DJT I don't think Sub-Zero at the highest level goes even with Cage.
What about kung lao? I ask your opinion because i know you've played against carl quite a bit and i havent. I've played king a lot and f0xy but never carl. Against king, when i was on my game, i definately felt like i had the favor but against foxy... That bird shit he does makes him unreadable. U have nothing to base reads on when he just flies back in forth . U can't back three, or uppercut on reaction so its basically a random guess if u hit him out of the air or not and if u guess wrong it can have consequences, like a full combo punish if i remember correctly. U kinda have to chase him down. Against standard kung lao, i say 6/4 cage. But against f0xy.. On a game based on reading ur opponent, when u cant really read him, its 6/4 lao atleast.
Pretty accurate list. 10/10 would read again.
Some people claim its 5-5 but I think cage has slight advantage. I think carl was better than King KL up until 2013 then he focused more on Kabal and Kings KL surpassed him. Carl was more of the "bird style" if you will, but King implemented it into his gameplay more in 2013 too though.
I always forget about the fact that high level Cyrax now does 80 something percent...
I went in the lab and checked it out, asked somberness to look into the frame data behind it, and tried it myself even. I just don't think it's that great against cage. Its slower than standing 1 so if he ever tries to get it started anywhere in that range he gets juggled. People dont think other KLs can do it right but I know others have tried it, its just if JC times it correctly, standing 1 will juggle him as he goes up in the air trying to get it started. Other normals can work too, it just is easiesr with standing 1. If hes doing it from far away, its much easier to uppercut it as he crosses you over as the angle is much closer to your head. You can watch my match with Forever King at UFGT, as he tries to get it started from further than point blank.
That's the thing. You CAN'T time it correctly because it's not exactly consistent. And u can only basically uppercut on read. And if u mis time it, i think he can full combo punish, im
Have u played foxy's creation known as bird lao? Have u played foxy's bird lao?
LOL I just read this reply. Yeah pretty much the match I was referring to.
I never fought foxys lao. I dont play NRS games online though.
Ok man. No disrespect to you but then u really dk what im talking about then. I know how forever king plays, its nothing like foxy's. People hear me say that he just jk dk's and think its stupid but if u havent played foxy then guys, u dont get it. U think if d2 was simply the answer i wouldn't know it? U can't react to it with d2 . I've played king and foxy back to back and its MUCH harder to beat foxy's lao in that mu because of his tactic and safer playing. U guys are theory fighting, i'm telling u my experience with it. It's great in this mu.
I have prepared for everything that KL can do. Foxy doesn't use magic, he follows the same rules of the game as everyone else. Back when I practiced MK I spent time to study what is possible such as what jk/dk can do at each range.
I do believe that king hasnt fully mastered the jumpkick divekick thing and no other tournament kung lao has mastered 24 spin like foxy has, just imagine getting hit by 24 overhead and it being 35% damage instead of just 15%. This in my opinion is a pretty big difference, I would say kung lao players not using 24 spin is like pre patch cage players not using f32nutpunch. Not to say which kung lao is better I dont want to start that conversation, but we will never know because mk has had its time. Another thing is Pl was by results definitely the best kung lao, but you know the guy is very stubborn and sometimes does not want to listen to other people who have good(partial) solutions for some of kung laos problems
making 9th and beating americas best player doesnt really define getting bopped