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"Believe in magic yet?" - Zatanna Match-Up Discussion thread

Mr. Mileena

Mr. Mileena

Champion
Zatanna may probably beat GL, but I think 7-3 is too much of a stretch.
Her sluggish, slow speed really hurts when trying to get out, and people still are not punishing her teleports that are not meterburned.

This is a MU where she can zone, especially in trait freely due to reflecting missles, lightning cage his air turbine, etc.
Upclose, it's kind of annoying trying to get away by walking. If they expect a teleport back, they can b1 or lift you. and at far enough ranges, his stupid lift is safe outside her S3.

She doesn't lose the MU for sure, but perhaps 7-3 is a bit of a stretch.
 
Orochi

Orochi

Scorpion Scrub
Mr. Mileena said:
Zatanna may probably beat GL, but I think 7-3 is too much of a stretch.
Her sluggish, slow speed really hurts when trying to get out, and people still are not punishing her teleports that are not meterburned.

This is a MU where she can zone, especially in trait freely due to reflecting missles, lightning cage his air turbine, etc.
Upclose, it's kind of annoying trying to get away by walking. If they expect a teleport back, they can b1 or lift you. and at far enough ranges, his stupid lift is safe outside her S3.

She doesn't lose the MU for sure, but perhaps 7-3 is a bit of a stretch.
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Could be a bit of a stretch, it's def on her favor though. People say Raven-GL is 6-4 and this def feels worse than that MU, I'll be sure to run it back with him now that I know it a little better.
 
Mr. Mileena

Mr. Mileena

Champion
Orochi said:
Could be a bit of a stretch, it's def on her favor though. People say Raven-GL is 6-4 and this def feels worse than that MU, I'll be sure to run it back with him now that I know it a little better.
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Raven I could see it being 7-3, and Zatanna 6-4
 
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187x

Warrior
Orochi said:
Oh no lol i said people say raven is 6-4 and that Zatanna feels worse than raven ;p
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6-4's are winnable. At the highest level 7-3's are not winnable. Thats why it can't be 7-3 imo. MMH, Batgirl, Raven, Zatanna are bad match ups for GL but winnable.
 
Orochi

Orochi

Scorpion Scrub
187x said:
6-4's are winnable. At the highest level 7-3's are not winnable. Thats why it can't be 7-3 imo. MMH, Batgirl, Raven, Zatanna are bad match ups but winnable.
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Batgirl is even not sure why GLs keep saying shes a bad MU lol
 
Orochi

Orochi

Scorpion Scrub
187x said:
I don't think so. Sinestro isn't even either if your going to say thats even also lol. All of his bad matchups are 4-6 at best.
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Nah sinestro has an advantage specially now that b12 hits middle, but batgirl is def even I run that matchup a lot with Renegade(offline) and Demise(online) and also most high level batgirl players keep losing to GLs that know the MU. and I agree his bad matchups are 4-6 at best.
 
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187x

Warrior
Orochi said:
Nah sinestro has an advantage specially now that b12 hits middle, but batgirl is def even I run that matchup a lot with Renegade(offline) and Demise(online) and also most high level batgirl players keep losing to GLs that know the MU. and I agree his bad matchups are 4-6 at best.
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Sinestro been having the advantage.
 
DomChalant

DomChalant

Noob
deg222 said:
I don't want to set anything in stone, but after playing multiple GLs I'm starting to think this is 7-3 in Zatanna's favor. GL's lack of mobility really kills him in this MU which is very crucial end game when you're able to wager and get fullscreen from him. I dunno, just watch the video for yourself. I'll say this, he definitely didn't know the MU in the beginning matches, but even when he started to understand the MU, I'd always have the upper hand. Starts 24:45

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Amazing Zatanna gameplay ..finally! You're the only one I've seen use the standing 2 reset after Trance ..its +23 on hit so I prefer it. Good stuff ..keep the matchup videos coming. I might end up using her for some matches at this weekends tournament I'm going to!


 
EMPRESS_SunFire

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Yeah, i run matched this past Friday against Green Lantern (since i can't be online much) and it fell in Zatanna's advantage, we can telepost everything on reaction to punish him, the bad thing is up close tho. 6-4 ATM, but it seems with 7-3 potential tho.
 
EMPRESS_SunFire

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Orochi said:
Oh no lol i said people say raven is 6-4 and that Zatanna feels worse than raven ;p
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Hehas a great Zatanna, but seems like you didn't know the mu! He was pressuring you with not MB teleports & you didn't punish them and you tried to do something after the MB rings, so maybe that's afactor why you think is that bad tho.
 
Orochi

Orochi

Scorpion Scrub
AspyxiaDyslexia- said:
Hehas a great Zatanna, but seems like you didn't know the mu! He was pressuring you with not MB teleports & you didn't ounish them and you tried to do something after the MB rings, so maybe that's afactor why you think is that bad tho.
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Yeah i def didn't know much what was going on lol since he's the only decent zatanna player i've played. I know I can punish the tele and the normal kick but they seem too fast because of the delay everytime I tried to punish I got blown up. I def will be going over it again in the next couple of days if he wants to play again and try some new tactics, it's def on her favor but will try to close the margin and play a little more safe vs her zoning.
 
EMPRESS_SunFire

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Orochi said:
Yeah i def didn't know much what was going on lol since he's the only decent zatanna player i've played. I know I can punish the tele and the normal kick but they seem too fast because of the delay everytime I tried to punish I got blown up. I def will be going over it again in the next couple of days if he wants to play again and try some new tactics, it's def on her favor but will try to close the margin and play a little more safe vs her zoning.
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Yes try it! Props for both, both are crazy, i loved your Green Lantern and his Zatanna! deg222 Very entretaining matches. Learn a bit more the MU, i used to think it was 7-3 when i first fought GL, i was like omg! But then i played the same GL player and he knew the mu pretty well. And yes, it's definitely a 6-4 for Zatanna.
 
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