Rejoice my fellow Graysons (patch 1.06)

[nightw0lf]

Not good enough. Dick still walks slow and has slower normals than Batman.

Of course he does. Batman is a freaking ninja.

 

[Wasted]

And Catwoman herself has said Nightwing is faster by a hair.

 

[Sajam]

I think the worst part about these patch notes, is that I'm all excited about the changes but I have to go fight normal Superman/BA tomorrow.

 

[TakeAChance]

The staff spin buff is amazing. No longer have to cower in fear of Grundy. Can lock down Catwoman and others now too.

 

[Sajam]

The staff spin buff is amazing. No longer have to cower in fear of Grundy. Can lock down Catwoman and others now too.

Staff spin fix is amazing.

No more 70% punishes because I accidentally mb it and Tyrant makes me hate my life.

 

[TakeAChance]

Staff spin fix is amazing.

No more 70% punishes because I accidentally mb it and Tyrant makes me hate my life.

Yep, Charlie Murphy can suck it lol.

 

[4x4lo8o]

Damn it, Ares needed to be able to crouch that!

 

[GuamoKun]

Damn it, Ares needed to be able to crouch that!

yeah he kinda did. I'm still wondering to see how Ares' buffs will change this MU because I always thought it was an odd MU.

ohh...and Sajam hit the nail on the head. No more Solomon Ratchet...and most important of all... Krayzie you can talk about your two hits of armor all you want, staff spin doesn't care and you can't duck it anymore!

 

[TheDerkus]

And Catwoman herself has said Nightwing is faster by a hair.

When did she say that?

 

[ruff321]

Lets not forget about Batgirl and WW Sword and Shield Stance, which oddly whiffs in the corner.

 

[4x4lo8o]

yeah he kinda did. I'm still wondering to see how Ares' buffs will change this MU because I always thought it was an odd MU.

ohh...and Sajam hit the nail on the head. No more Solomon Ratchet...and most important of all... Krayzie you can talk about your two hits of armor all you want, staff spin doesn't care and you can't duck it anymore!

I'm not sure Ares buffs will help much in this particular match up either. I suspect this will be Ares worst match up now.

Oh well, I guess I'll just keep relying on NW players not knowing how to jump Godsmack in staff stance

 

[Sajam]

Ares is a matchup that if you don't know, you probably won't win.

Unless you play current Superman. That matchup is hilariously bad.

 

[Chongo]

Joker, Ares, Yoloman Grundy, Catwoman, KF, Batgirl, and Wonder Woman mains can suck it.

The nerfs to others also indirectly buff him as well.

I'm still kind of sad that they didn't fix the fury glitch, but fuck it I got what I wanted.

 

[4x4lo8o]

Why was Grundy able to duck staff spin?

 

[Chongo]

Why was Grundy able to duck staff spin?

Dude Grundy's hitbox is allllll kinds of fucked up. I think he could duck MB Mace Charge lmao.

 

[ruff321]

Why was Grundy able to duck staff spin?

that guy is like twice NW size. I really don't understand the logic in that

 

[AssassiN]

Why was Grundy able to duck staff spin?

I'm not kidding when I'm saying that Grundy probably has the best hitbox in the game.
When he is standing the Flipkick does not cross-up and when he is crouching the Staff Spin MB(on which Staff pretty much relies on) whiffed and was full combo punishable.

Now with the patch we can use Staff against Grundy a little bit more.

 

[Wasted]

When did she say that?

Nightwing (Vol. 2), 2001, Issue 52. "He moves just like his mentor. Only it's more fluid somehow. He's *faster* than Batman. But only by a whisker. And that's the difference between life and death tonight."

 

[Sajam]

I'm not kidding when I'm saying that Grundy probably has the best hitbox in the game.
When he is standing the Flipkick does not cross-up and when he is crouching the Staff Spin MB(on which Staff pretty much relies on) whiffed and was full combo punishable.

Now with the patch we can use Staff against Grundy a little bit more.

This pretty much sums it up. Some characters can duck mb staff spin, and some can avoid being crossed up by flip kick, but Grundy doesn't give a fuck about either.

 

[ruff321]

MB Staff gets repeated pushblocked anyway. It's good to be consistent, yeah, but it's not what Dick really needs most.

Usually when staff spin get push blocked it's before the MB version. So even if your opponent pushblocked you get some meter and chip as well.

 

[Wasted]

Ugh...my bad. Retracted.

 

[Sajam]

Having mb staff spin not be available completely changes how safely NW can pressure, build meter, and chip opponents. Even with the meter gain nerf, NW needs staff spin to avoid having unsafe stance cancels from escrima. Plus, I can't even complain if somebody spends a bar push blocking staff spin. It leaves NW in a decent spot in most matchups anyway.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

I thought Paulo doesn't care about Nightwing.

Which means I want my runback next godlike Saturdays lol
Or at the major in November.

Edit: thought i quoted u sayin NW CW was NWs favor now -_- lol

 

[Wasted]

Having mb staff spin not be available completely changes how safely NW can pressure, build meter, and chip opponents. Even with the meter gain nerf, NW needs staff spin to avoid having unsafe stance cancels from escrima. Plus, I can't even complain if somebody spends a bar push blocking staff spin. It leaves NW in a decent spot in most matchups anyway.

Uh....preaching to the choir, I guess? It's a nice buff, but it FAR from addresses Dick's biggest flaws, which are movement speed and speed of his normals. Save Grundy against and maybe Diana, we didn't really need MB staff spin.

Again, good to have, but it's always worked properly in most of our worst matchups.

 

[BigMilk]

I thought it was fair and a unique mechanic that certain characters ducked staff spin?

I guess the opinions of 1 person can't be held to an entire community/team of people.

Thought i was the only one who felt that way but hey not complaining. i was more hoping for scatterbomb startup buff but i am satisfied w the changes.