Breakthrough Confirmed Details on Changes to Shazam!

[jaym7018]

not without a jump in, well actually not positive about that, but I know he has 50+ 1 bar with trait and a jump in.

Ive never seen it. J3 grab mb b3 j2 f22 grab isnt 50% traited. B23 f22 grab mb b3 j2 f22 grab will be at least 50% traited without a jump in.

 

[Metzos]

You guys are still sleeping on Bane. This is getting ridiculous.

 

[zoofs]

Ive never seen it. J3 grab mb b3 j2 f22 grab isnt 50% traited. B23 f22 grab mb b3 j2 f22 grab will be at least 50% traited without a jump in.

j3, achilles clutch mb, 112 atlas torpedo 51% trait

 

[MagicMan357]

You guys are still sleeping on Bane. This is getting ridiculous.

This community has shown constantly that they dont know wtf they want or what actually makes a character the way it is.

 

[jaym7018]

a character that has command grabs and it's good up close shouldn't have an easy time getting in that Is the rules of fighting games. Imagine zangief, t hawk, having an easy time to get in in sf4 lol no way. Though I agree the zoning and lame game in this game is op and dominates the game but that's NRS fault for making the longest stages in the history of 2d fighting games and also the screen stretches to long when both players are on each corner. But that's something that will never get fixed so IMO they should just nerf the overall zoning in this game so other characters that can't run away and have to chase have an easier time getting in.

Finally someone who understands fighting games. As well as the reason zoning is the way it is in this game, the big ass stages and camera zooming out.

 

[Perdition]

Its funny to see people so scared of Bane...I like this. Been playing Bane a lot, and he's a fix or two away from keeping up with this roster. Lets see! You guys better be fuckin' scared. Hahah

 

[Mikemetroid]

Archilihes Cluth

nice...but not really

 

[Qwark28]

So basically, shazams command grabs will have the range of banes or close to that, which should've been so since day 1.

minor damage, combos out of already comboable and unsafe strings.

Is this what you've been working on ever since evo, all these months, NRS?

How about asking a few players what they want instead of random changes?

Considering NRS standard of damage buffs or nerfs, i'd say the difference is like 3% lol...

 

[jaym7018]

j3, achilles clutch mb, 112 atlas torpedo 51% trait

And will likely be 60% after the patch or close to it.

 

[MagicMan357]

Finally someone who understands fighting games. As well as the reason zoning is the way it is in this game, the big ass stages and camera zooming out.

His comment his been one of the very few sane ones

 

[FOREVER BALLIN]

Shazam will have 50+ % midscreen combos with trait and 1 bar.

If you have trait already activated ...
F22 stagger, HM, B3, J3, F223 HM is 46% + the 10 from the F22 stagger
or with trait on already...
F3 J3 112 AT is 46% with no bar so very close and if you spend a bar it's 49%

 

[snort]

a character that has command grabs and it's good up close shouldn't have an easy time getting in that Is the rules of fighting games. Imagine zangief, t hawk, having an easy time to get in in sf4 lol no way.

So true. Be happy he has a teleport.

 

[jaym7018]

So basically, shazams command grabs will have the range of banes or close to that, which should've been so since day 1.

minor damage, combos out of already comboable and unsafe strings.

Is this what you've been working on ever since evo, all these months, NRS?

How about asking a few players what they want instead of random changes?

Considering NRS standard of damage buffs or nerfs, i'd say the difference is like 3% lol...

What are you talking about. One of the biggest things shazam players have asked for is meterless damage. They have that in spades now.

 

[zoofs]

And will likely be 60% after the patch or close to it.

Im fine with the damage buffs, i just thought his normals needed some help.. and possibly faster startup on teleport, maybe some sort of change to torpedo other than damage

 

[jaym7018]

If you have trait already activated ...
F22 stagger, HM, B3, J3, F223 HM is 46% + the 10 from the F22 stagger
or with trait on already...
F3 J3 112 AT is 46% with no bar so very close and if you spend a bar it's 49%

And now he will get that damage off a advancing overhead that will be hit confirmable into a combo.

 

[jaym7018]

Im fine with the damage buffs, i just thought his normals needed some help.. and possibly faster startup on teleport, maybe some sort of change to torpedo other than damage

Normals needing help b23 is now better than black adams b23. Seriously wtf.

 

[Slips]

How about asking a few players what they want instead of random changes?

Scorpion

 

[Benzo]

There's no making the cry babies at TYM happy. I wish he'd quit listening to the gaping assholes on this site and focus on making money.

 

[RWDY Nori]

You do realize that they buffed his dash not so long ago yes? Why get in with charge and not by dashing in after blocking a projectile? Bane players want to have an EASY way in. Bane has a way in, just like the rest of the cast.

We want something fucked up like the rest of the cast has. I don't believe in neutering the top tier, so buff the shit out of the bottom

 

[jaym7018]

The b23 change alone is gonna make him a force assuming they fix the whiffing issues.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Normals needing help b23 is now better than black adams b23. Seriously wtf.

In the words of M2Dave: " You are a fool"

 

[Xanru]

Normals needing help b23 is now better than black adams b23. Seriously wtf.

lolwut.

 

[jaym7018]

In the words of M2Dave: " You are a fool"

No you are a fool.

 

[Qwark28]

Scorpion

I meant high lvl offline players who play the character at the highest lvl. NRS has always twisted everything they've been told to fix.

Fix teleport? Let's compensate for that by nerfing his J3. Compensate for that too by lowering his damage to 17%! Add in no safe wakeups as well.

 

[zoofs]

What are you talking about. One of the biggest things shazam players have asked for is meterless damage. They have that in spades now.

I think people complained more about having low damage while still using meter without trait, I don't see how these changes will make that much of a difference to be honest. atlas torpedo, herculean might, and achilles clutch all would only be enders for meterless combos so damage buffs really won't matter