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Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
but he can also do 113 trait throw or non mb lightning or b23 which dont use any meter
Grabs can be teched.
Non mb lighting is punishable.
B23 can be blocked.
Even pushblock

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Circus

Part-Time Kano Hostage
I posted this to be known ASAP. Could've let it loose after the patch but I wanted people to know about it so something could be decided. This could turn Injustice into a kabal fest.

Appreciated.

Grabs can be teched.
Non mb lighting is punishable.
B23 can be blocked.
Even pushblock

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Can't you see that you are trying to defend BA a little more that is warranted? It's not as if these things being found out with him are all he has going for him. His backdash, space control, and zoning alone shut down a good portion of the cast.

If it were up to you would you what changes would you give to BA? I've read before that you think he should stay relatively untouched.
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
KF use to have a tech where if you use 111xxtrait on block on the opponent that she'd get a free mixup. Because of it they nerfed the recovery on trait so hard that her regular damage is now under 30% without a jump in and any kind of trait canceling is impossible now.

Sure, KF and Batgirl could vortex but they don't have the amazing range game that Black Adam has. This is literally all KF and Batgirl have as far as racking on damage outside of the corner because their far away game is average at best. After her nerfs it's debatable if KF is even top 10 anymore though of course she is still good.

Black Adam has some of the best keepaway in the game, gains meter like mad, and could stall for time/trait because of his amazing dashes and space control. So I can't really see how him needing some meter and a trait justify him STILL being a canidate for some nerfs. The whole "Black Adam shouldn't be touched" thing would be a dangerous thing if NRS actually listened man.
True. But kf trait works different. She could use it whenever ever and tons of time for her free mix ups on block.
I probably see the time it takes for his trair to come back to take longer than now so he wont have it as much. Saying kf is not top 10 is funny to me
I domt think ppl are using bg and kf to their potential just yet. Vortex is crazy good

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Circus

Part-Time Kano Hostage
True. But kf trait works different. She could use it whenever ever and tons of time for her free mix ups on block.
I probably see the time it takes for his trair to come back to take longer than now so he wont have it as much. Saying kf is not top 10 is funny to me
I domt think ppl are using bg and kf to their potential just yet. Vortex is crazy good

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This isn't about KF though. Justifying Black Adam not being nerfed because of another character having some similarities isn't the right way to go about things. They're totally different characters with totally different strengths and weaknesses.
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
How did you test this????
I found some ways out already
Chars can jump out of the low lighting over adam and full combo punish or even neutral jump. Tested with superman. Also back dash works but last hits of mb lighting hit. Maybe ppl with good back dashes can get away

Also batman can release bats and hit him out and punish

Grabs seem to whiff if opponent is hokding back.
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Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
Note
113 starts with a high so can be ducked.
You can push block and avoid the frame trap

Ill have to mess with it when I get home

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Why would you ever risk blocking low up close against BA? That's suicide... 113 is free pressure because of this threat.
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
EVERYONE CALM DOWN. I FOUND A WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE GRAB. ALTHOUGH CAN BE TECH. VIDEO IN COMING

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i played this game for the first time in a month today against d4 and used this tech on him repeatedly with 0 practice. just herp derp 1134 instant divekick free combo every time. it was ridiculous
 

Crathen

Death is my business
This is very cheap lol , basically either respect another b2 into whatever or get crossed up by MB DK , pretty much a free launching 50/50 if he has meter , sure you could try buffering the backdash while in blockstun to block the DK and backdash through the DK , but atm that's extremely though to do consistently , not to mention all the other plethora of shit BA can do.

Good stuff.
 

ABACABB

End Of Humanity
i played this game for the first time in a month today against d4 and used this tech on him repeatedly with 0 practice. just herp derp 1134 instant divekick free combo every time. it was ridiculous
maybe its stupid question but how you do instant divekick ?
im new to black adam : c
 

Wemfs

The only morality in a cruel world is chance.
i tested everything in the first post against kryptonian smash, 113 links into almost everything

i need to find bomb setups with this
Yes please find them bomb setups. I don't see any Black Adams utilizing his little spark bombs at all. I know there's gotta be something great about them.
 

Crathen

Death is my business
Crouchblocking the last hit 11(3) makes me able to backdash the b2 and the DK as it seems

Edit: then again he can mix it up with 112(overhead)xxlighting or whatever he wants to do afterwards
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
ok too lazy to make a videoo.... lol

you start crouch blocking the last 2 hits of 113, (so that 3 connects on you croutching) Then .. just press back to stand block...
he has so much advantage off orbs.. that if he does the instant far stomp mb dk to cross you over, He will go right over you and whiff..
if he does the close stomp, you will stand block it last second (since you start holding back right after the 113 )..

so its like a option select to avoid the cross over and block the close one.

NOW, there is times where BA still catches you with his far stomp if he does it correctly... its weird cus hes not touching you but it hits you from behind...
Although, it also can be avoided if you manage to croutch the first hit of 113...

as for 113 orbs into lighting.. it can be jump backed. or jump over into a punish on adam....
(tested again.. if done right, you cant jump it... but lb is so easy to reach to.. you can push block the first hit, and have adam waste his trait, and 1 bar, and only get 5 percent damage from trait)

hit the lab ppl
 

Circus

Part-Time Kano Hostage
ok too lazy to make a videoo.... lol

you start crouch blocking the last 2 hits of 113, (so that 3 connects on you croutching) Then .. just press back to stand block...
he has so much advantage off orbs.. that if he does the instant far stomp mb dk to cross you over, He will go right over you and whiff..
if he does the close stomp, you will stand block it last second (since you start holding back right after the 113 )..

so its like a option select to avoid the cross over and block the close one.

NOW, there is times where BA still catches you with his far stomp if he does it correctly... its weird cus hes not touching you but it hits you from behind...
Although, it also can be avoided if you manage to croutch the first hit of 113...

as for 113 orbs into lighting.. it can be jump backed. or jump over into a punish on adam....

hit the lab ppl


Doesn't this mean he still has the mixup of going for:

**113xxtrait...**

1. Grab >> even if you tech you still take the orb damage. If you don't break it's close to 20%

2. Overhead launcher string >> can't be backdashed because of the advantage and will stuff out the grab break attempt.

So the mixup still stands that you either take just the orb damage, take the grab and the orb damage, or risk breaking the grab and eat an overhead into an almost half damage combo.

And of course he could just end the string in the overhead with 112 to discourage ducks.