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KonDcnT

KonDcnT

KonDcnT
Any new strategy vs Bane? The patch pretty much took away any chance I had to keep Bane honest. Also, I have been messing around in the lab going over some teeth loops and I am not sure I am on to something her but I went with the basic far teeth ji3 far teeth 3, 3.... from here I am trying to b3 and finish with ji2 3, 2 flower something rhat will put up some heavy damage. My issue is landing b3. After 3, 3. Has anyone teried this set up? If so, did you have any luck?
 
KonDcnT

KonDcnT

KonDcnT
Okay you can bounce cancel after 3, 3 which you can then go into 21 flower or d2 gun for 45%. Nothing special.
 
PerrySenchals

PerrySenchals

Noob
laudanum09 said:
I should have been more clear, I meant cancelling a combo or normal into F3 MB, i.e. 21, df MB button, not starting with a F3 and then doing a combo. You can 'option select' it against an opponents wakeup by doing a meaty normal and if it whiffs during invincible frames of a wakeup's startup, your MB F3 or B3 comes out but of course this costs 2 bars
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Found one combo based on StevoSuprem0's teeth loops (sorry still don't know how to properly tag people) that uses B3 MB cancel:


Couldn't seem to land anything after that last ji2. All I could manage was a b1; everything else whiffed. I think the best bet would be to ji3 for max damage. Or, if you delay the b3 mb cancel a bit so it hits later, you'll be able to land either a 32, or sweep for hard KD. Try it out! I'll try to post a better video after I experiment a bit more with it.

At any rate, the 33 mb b3 was easier for me than ji3 far teeth. Not as much damage, but more forgiving with the timing. Note: if you land the 33 too early, you'll knock them out of range of the second set of teeth.

EDIT: Stevo's combo here -- http://testyourmight.com/threads/joker-teeth-combos-and-setups.35419/
 
Gilbagz

Gilbagz

Joker here~
KonDcnT said:
Any new strategy vs Bane? The patch pretty much took away any chance I had to keep Bane honest. Also, I have been messing around in the lab going over some teeth loops and I am not sure I am on to something her but I went with the basic far teeth ji3 far teeth 3, 3.... from here I am trying to b3 and finish with ji2 3, 2 flower something rhat will put up some heavy damage. My issue is landing b3. After 3, 3. Has anyone teried this set up? If so, did you have any luck?
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Teeth loops are nice but I don't think that should be your focus.
You are never going to hit someone with a naked set of teeth.
You need to focus on teeth set ups and footsies.
Learn match up strategies.

For bane all I can say is learn the timing to jump charge. Otherwise he gets in free. You can time a back jump to punish the charge.
Learn to space b1, d3 and j3. Those are Joker's best tools imo.
 
StevoSuprem0

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
PerrySenchals said:
Found one combo based on StevoSuprem0's teeth loops (sorry still don't know how to properly tag people) that uses B3 MB cancel:


Couldn't seem to land anything after that last ji2. All I could manage was a b1; everything else whiffed. I think the best bet would be to ji3 for max damage. Or, if you delay the b3 mb cancel a bit so it hits later, you'll be able to land either a 32, or sweep for hard KD. Try it out! I'll try to post a better video after I experiment a bit more with it.

At any rate, the 33 mb b3 was easier for me than ji3 far teeth. Not as much damage, but more forgiving with the timing. Note: if you land the 33 too early, you'll knock them out of range of the second set of teeth.
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Cool. Definitely a valid option if you struggle with the teeth loop timing. Not optimal, but I do love that roundhouse at the end of the 33 combo. Fun stuff man =)
As for tagging, just put an "@" symbol before the name, just like you see them when other people are tagged.
 
PerrySenchals

PerrySenchals

Noob
StevoSuprem0 said:
Cool. Definitely a valid option if you struggle with the teeth loop timing. Not optimal, but I do love that roundhouse at the end of the 33 combo. Fun stuff man =)
As for tagging, just put an "@" symbol before the name, just like you see them when other people are tagged.
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Word, thanks. Yea man, this one's more for style points. Probably more useful if I can at least get a hard KD to stop tech roll and set up more teeth.
 
KonDcnT

KonDcnT

KonDcnT
I like messing with the loops to get the timing down. Attempting "naked teeth loop" in a match is a risk I can't take at the moment. I wam more interested in the dash cancel. I guess I am just hoping to find something in Jo's arsenal to devistate the playing field. I mained cyrax in mk and now the joker. I am a glutten for up hill battles.
As far as the Bane match up I have seen cat read the charge and throw close teeth and block the charge into teeth for a pretty nice punish. The timing is ridiculous online.
 
KonDcnT

KonDcnT

KonDcnT
PerrySenchals said:
Found one combo based on StevoSuprem0's teeth loops (sorry still don't know how to properly tag people) that uses B3 MB cancel:


Couldn't seem to land anything after that last ji2. All I could manage was a b1; everything else whiffed. I think the best bet would be to ji3 for max damage. Or, if you delay the b3 mb cancel a bit so it hits later, you'll be able to land either a 32, or sweep for hard KD. Try it out! I'll try to post a better video after I experiment a bit more with it.

At any rate, the 33 mb b3 was easier for me than ji3 far teeth. Not as much damage, but more forgiving with the timing. Note: if you land the 33 too early, you'll knock them out of range of the second set of teeth.

EDIT: Stevo's combo here -- http://testyourmight.com/threads/joker-teeth-combos-and-setups.35419/
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Dude I literally was working on the 3, 3 after ji3 today. I believe you did a ji2. With the ji3 option I could only get it to work with a bounce cancel. I use a 3 2 flower follow up, to keep them lose or a d2 gun to keep them away.
 
StevoSuprem0

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
AK-Israel said:
I thought joker didn't have any unblockable setups
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There are untechable setups once you get them into the corner, but most characters have a wakeup option to escape if they make the right read. If they don't, well, they're getting hurt.
 
Qwark28

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
I think I just found something huge for joker, really huge.


Need to test what I can use it for and i'll reply asap
 
StevoSuprem0

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
medhood said:
What move would be best to do at the star of a match to get first hit as Joker.
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Well that all about reading what the opponent is gonna do at start. For instance, d2 hits from the starting positions now after the buff last patch, and d3 is also a good option, but if you're playing Superman alot of them start with f23 which will stop both of those moves because it's faster (and bullshit). However, in that case, you can get a neutral jump in before the hit lands, dodging that and allowing you to full combo punish to start the match; going for a ji2/3 isn't really a bad option from start in general unless they make the read that you're doing it. If you're unsure, alot of the time the best bet is just to start out blocking, and if they dash back, go for a gunshot, whereas if they pursue or whiff with something they tried to start, catch them with footsies or go for a punish. That's all a bit basic, but that's how I tend to play it- hope it helps.
 
Comrade_Aleksey

Comrade_Aleksey

Noob
Dr Jackal said:
laudanum09 Sure mate ;) here the combos I love to do with F3 :
F3 (MB or not), d2 far teeth, J3, farteeth, J3, fartheeth, 3 flower, 32 flower
Sorry I am at word I don't remember exactly the %.

You can replace the J3 for an easiest combos too:
F3MB, d2 far teeth, J2, farteeth, J1 far teeth, 3flower ==> potential reset, then you know the end of the story.

Cheers
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How could i mist this shit??? If its work it'll be about 40+! Great! Well done dr J!
 
medhood

medhood

Noob
Guys can someone tell me how am I meant to use these chattering teeth, I know all the button combinations but I don't know how im meant to put them into my play, im a big Joker a fan and bought this game cause he was in it and if he wasn't then I wouldn't have Injustice cause I don't pick a character just cause they can do a lot of damage easily or they are top tier I pick a character cause I like the character himself not his game play and moves but I also don't like losing and I think that if I can learn how to use the teeth I'll win more.

Edit: By the way I read some teeth guides and combos and tried them out in practice mode and I also watched a few video guides but im steel bad with teeth.
 
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