Breakthrough - Sonya Blade What buffs you guys think Sonya will get in KP2?

[XxDark_]

It is in theory, but that's not what happens in practice. We've had Lao, Quan Chi, Cassie since Day 1. People spotted Predator, Tanya on their Day 1. Their pathetic baby slap "nerfs to top tiers" barely did anything to them. Patch after patch and they're too busy nerfing Jacqui, Mileena, Jason, and Kano, while buffing Lao, QC, and Cassie 3rd variations at the same time. So if that's going to be the case then more characters need to be brought up to what they deem acceptable playing standards.

when did Lao get buffed?????

 

[errormacro7]

when did Lao get buffed?????

He said his 3rd variation got buffed. Hat Trick got buffed in the last patch I believe.

 

[SaltShaker]

when did Lao get buffed?????

Bro. Bro!

 

[flappysamyhamy]

Alright, since everyone is doing it, Imma do it.

It's common knowledge among the players that our General Blade is sitting down there in the bottom 5 dungeon of characters in this game and have always been. Our Yomi friend @YOMI RM Glass Sword agrees.

My suggestions:

Universal:

121 is now +10 on block
Dive kick is now an OH and -5 on block (EX version is a low and +5)
EX Leg Grab is now an armored launcher and -3 on block
B142 is now +2 on block
B14 is now a HKD in a juggle (*Sonya players freak out right now*)

Covert Ops:

Parry (Regular and EX) now parries projectiles
OH Cartwheel now starts up in 6 frames and -3 on block

Demolition:

Unbreakable grenades
DD1 (grenade reload) now starts up in 15 frames

Special Forces:

DD1 (drone call) now lasts 1 minute on screen
BLK+2 is an unblockable
B2 is now +10 on block

She probably needs a lot more, but these little buffs would make her at least as good as Kenshi.

Suggestions?

Oh my god PLS no

 

[Tony at Home]

Pretty sure this thread was intended to be sarcastic. Shoutouts to Poes Law.

She's fine and doesn't need any non-fix buffs.

Anyway, if NRS is even listening to these over-buff threads then it doesn't matter anyway. No overpowered beast you could possibly imagine will ever beat Boromac

 

[Phosferrax]

It is in theory, but that's not what happens in practice. We've had Lao, Quan Chi, Cassie since Day 1. People spotted Predator, Tanya on their Day 1. Their pathetic baby slap "nerfs to top tiers" barely did anything to them. Patch after patch and they're too busy nerfing Jacqui, Mileena, Jason, and Kano, while buffing Lao, QC, and Cassie 3rd variations at the same time. So if that's going to be the case then more characters need to be brought up to what they deem acceptable playing standards.

They've very clearly made attempts at toning down Lao, Tanya and Predator, as well as buffing perceived weaker characters/variations. Not everything is right at this moment, some mistakes have been made, but rome wasn't built in a day, and you can't possibly know what is in the works in terms of buffs/nerfs to make the assumption of what they deem as 'acceptable' standards, mainly because they haven't finished patching yet.

I suppose we're just going to overlook the buffs that actually make up the vast majority of changes that occures to each of the 'nerfed' characters you referenced, so it can benefit your point?

 

[Kingshootahz]

these little buffs would make her at least as good as Kenshi

at least as good as Kenshi.

good as Kenshi.

Kenshi

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[Death]

On a serious note

121 should be +5 on block
121 string no longer whiffs on crouching opponents
Ex leg grab now launches for combo
Air throw now does 15% damage up from 12
Ex parry now has armor on startup
B2 is now a true mid and safe on block
Backdash has faster startup
F2 now allows enough hit advantage to link into full combo from B1 & B3

Demo:
Bombs should be unbreakable
Red bombs now slightly drains opponents meter
Ex grenade toss now has armor

Man if this actually happened Ill probably drop my so so Cage experiment and go back to Sonya. Those buffs!!!

Armor on Ex parry and Leg gab launcher is a little much but 121 being +5 and no whiffing crouching opponents is reasonable. I would like to see F2 have more hit advantage where you can hitconfirm MS 4 on hit for a combo and on block MS grab tick throwing. That would help out her footsie game I think. Maybe universally buffing ring toss to. A bit more safer on block and faster start up would be nice.

 

[Skedar70]

So nobody understood the sarcasm in the these buff posts?

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

121 is now +10 on block
?

You kidding me? Everything you listed would make her borderline broken!

 

[Tony at Home]

So nobody understood the sarcasm in the these buff posts?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

 

[errormacro7]

Man if this actually happened Ill probably drop my so so Cage experiment and go back to Sonya. Those buffs!!!

Armor on Ex parry and Leg gab launcher is a little much but 121 being +5 and no whiffing crouching opponents is reasonable. I would like to see F2 have more hit advantage where you can hitconfirm MS 4 on hit for a combo and on block MS grab tick throwing. That would help out her footsie game I think. Maybe universally buffing ring toss to. A bit more safer on block and faster start up would be nice.

The point of the thread was to troll everyone, but come to think of it, I don't see how EX Leg Grab being a launcher would be too much. Almost every character in this game has an armored launcher.

 

[SaltShaker]

They've very clearly made attempts at toning down Lao, Tanya and Predator, as well as buffing perceived weaker characters/variations. Not everything is right at this moment, some mistakes have been made, but rome wasn't built in a day, and you can't possibly know what is in the works in terms of buffs/nerfs to make the assumption of what they deem as 'acceptable' standards, mainly because they haven't finished patching yet.

I suppose we're just going to overlook the buffs that actually make up the vast majority of changes that occures to each of the 'nerfed' characters you referenced, so it can benefit your point?

For people who are in charge of balance, their "attempts" were parhetic. Hard for me to be understanding about it. People have been calling Lao Top 3 since May. People have complained about QC in what seems like forever. Tanya got a teleport nerf and keeps all her stupidity because she "needs it"? Cassie received pointless nerfs that left her exactly the same. Etc. Meanwhile many mid tier characters, or characters who weren't even doing anything received significant nerfs. It's impossible to justify this in my eyes, it just doesn't make sense. Poor decision making unless they have no problem with the current state of the top tiers. I personally don't care what tools the top have, I just want everyone to have tools as good if that's going to be the case.

Also, I'm not saying no one was buffed. Clearly guys like Takeda, Kitana, and Reptile are way better now due to patches. Great job. My only issue is with nerfs to characters who weren't as good as the ones left alone to begin with. Example: nerf Jacqui, Mileena, and Jason while buffing Quan Chi, Brawler, and Gunslinger. It seems just clear that they have no issues with the top tier based on them giving each and every one minimal changes that don't impact their tier, or even buffs. If these Top 7-8 characters get to stay top of the class, then I see no reason why other characters can't get their requested buffs too. Most of them wouldn't even be as good as the top anyway.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Are you crazy? She should be down there with Jason.

Ok its a joke isn't it? Lmao

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

For people who are in charge of balance, their "attempts" were parhetic. Hard for me to be understanding about it. People have been calling Lao Top 3 since May. People have complained about QC in what seems like forever. Tanya got a teleport nerf and keeps all her stupidity because she "needs it"? Cassie received pointless nerfs that left her exactly the same. Etc. Meanwhile many mid tier characters, or characters who weren't even doing anything received significant nerfs. It's impossible to justify this in my eyes, it just doesn't make sense. Poor decision making unless they have no problem with the current state of the top tiers. I personally don't care what tools the top have, I just want everyone to have tools as good if that's going to be the case.

Also, I'm not saying no one was buffed. Clearly guys like Takeda, Kitana, and Reptile are way better now due to patches. Great job. My only issue is with nerfs to characters who weren't as good as the ones left alone to begin with. Example: nerf Jacqui, Mileena, and Jason while buffing Quan Chi, Brawler, and Gunslinger. It seems just clear that they have no issues with the top tier based on them giving each and every one minimal changes that don't impact their tier, or even buffs. If these Top 7-8 characters get to stay top of the class, then I see no reason why other characters can't get their requested buffs too. Most of them wouldn't even be as good as the top anyway.

OMG finally a person who makes sense! Who thinks that top tiers shouldn't be nerfed but low tiers should be buffed

 

[lm Tweakk]

On a serious note

121 should be +5 on block
121 string no longer whiffs on crouching opponents
Ex leg grab now launches for combo
Air throw now does 15% damage up from 12
Ex parry now has armor on startup
B2 is now a true mid and safe on block
Backdash has faster startup
F2 now allows enough hit advantage to link into full combo from B1 & B3

Demo:
Bombs should be unbreakable
Red bombs now slightly drains opponents meter
Ex grenade toss now has armor

You have to be kidding.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

You have to be kidding.

He is! Lol

Not sure

 

[Phosferrax]

For people who are in charge of balance, their "attempts" were parhetic. Hard for me to be understanding about it. People have been calling Lao Top 3 since May. People have complained about QC in what seems like forever. Tanya got a teleport nerf and keeps all her stupidity because she "needs it"? Cassie received pointless nerfs that left her exactly the same. Etc. Meanwhile many mid tier characters, or characters who weren't even doing anything received significant nerfs. It's impossible to justify this in my eyes, it just doesn't make sense. Poor decision making unless they have no problem with the current state of the top tiers. I personally don't care what tools the top have, I just want everyone to have tools as good if that's going to be the case.

Also, I'm not saying no one was buffed. Clearly guys like Takeda, Kitana, and Reptile are way better now due to patches. Great job. My only issue is with nerfs to characters who weren't as good as the ones left alone to begin with. Example: nerf Jacqui, Mileena, and Jason while buffing Quan Chi, Brawler, and Gunslinger. It seems just clear that they have no issues with the top tier based on them giving each and every one minimal changes that don't impact their tier, or even buffs. If these Top 7-8 characters get to stay top of the class, then I see no reason why other characters can't get their requested buffs too. Most of them wouldn't even be as good as the top anyway.

All of this is completely irrelevant because the patches are not yet finished. You can't come to aconclusion about the patching when the patches aren't concluded themselves. Are you suggesting they wreck all the top tier? Someone has to be top, and Tanya, Lao, Predator, and even Cassie all have been nerfed, get remain top which is imo, better than nerfing the shit out of them. For Christ sake, we just saw the worst character Jason beat the best representative of the best character in the game at NEC.

They take it slow with the patches, people complain that not enough is done. They go fast, people complain that there is too much done.

 

[SaltShaker]

Are you suggesting they wreck all the top tier? Someone has to be top, and Tanya, Lao, Predator, and even Cassie all have been nerfed, get remain top which is imo, better than nerfing the shit out of them. For Christ sake, we just saw the worst character Jason beat the best representative of the best character in the game at NEC.

You clearly must have missed this part of my post-

I personally don't care what tools the top have, I just want everyone to have tools as good if that's going to be the case.

They can stay top, but no reason why not to create even more balance.

They take it slow with the patches, people complain that not enough is done. They go fast, people complain that there is too much done.

It's not about the speed of the patches, it's the equality of them. How some characters who haven't done anything, and are considered mid or low get nerfs, while characters who are universally considered top get buffs is beyond me. While they've made good changes like a great update to Takeda, they've made extremely questionable ones like nerfing Jason and letting him remain as is. I'll donate $100 out of my own bank account to someone who wins a tourney with Jason all the way lol. The time spent buffing Gunslinger could have went to buffing say, Mileena, since Erron already has two high tier level variations. The time spent buffing Hat Trick could have went to buffing Kenshi since Tempest is Top 2 and all of Kenshi is either ass or almost ass. Etc etc. That's my point.

Fast forward to KP2 balance patch. Well may be wrong, I highly doubt we'll see a game changing round of nerfs to the top tiers. Maybe little things, but nothing to breaking of them. Similar to Shinnok being "nerfed" but still super strong. When that likely happens I'd much rather see those bottom 10 guys get significant applicable buffs than read some Spectral Ermac nerf.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

These types of buffs should take place in every character forum

 

[scarsunseen]

The only thing I want is B14 to be a HKD like it used to be.

If you seriously think Sonya is bottom 5, you're not playing her right. End of story. She's A+ tier for a reason.

 

[SaltShaker]

The only thing I want is B14 to be a HKD like it used to be.

If you seriously think Sonya is bottom 5, you're not playing her right. End of story. She's A+ tier for a reason.

Nah OP was being super trolly lol.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

The only thing I want is B14 to be a HKD like it used to be.

If you seriously think Sonya is bottom 5, you're not playing her right. End of story. She's A+ tier for a reason.

The only thing I want is B14 to be a HKD like it used to be.

If you seriously think Sonya is bottom 5, you're not playing her right. End of story. She's A+ tier for a reason.

(The guy's trolling)

 

[errormacro7]

The only thing I want is B14 to be a HKD like it used to be.

If you seriously think Sonya is bottom 5, you're not playing her right. End of story. She's A+ tier for a reason.

Nah OP was being super trolly lol.

You guys don't get it, she seriously needs buffs.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

All these buff threads got me like:

Edit: just skip to 1:26