Raven needs a slightly longer d1 not an over head. There's a bunch of shit she can't punish because her d1 is too short.
Sorry I will edit my original post.
It's kind of irritating seeing how little you guys know about the character you're talking about. Raven would only get a standing reset 50/50 in trait and it would be crap. She'd do like not even 20%. The combo would be b12 or b2 mb pull looped. She'd be spending a bar for virtually no damage. The only characters she'd get a vortex on and it mattered would be catwoman & Raven because they have no full invincible wake ups. Out of trait Raven would be able to just end in f2 lift for a hkd and keeping them close & she'd get damage, about 40%. Oh and the whiffed normal thing doesn't apply to Ravens pull.
True indeed. D1 and B1 range is probably the most ass range normals in the game lol. I've whiffed moves at times directly infront of people.
I dunt kno... welcome to fighters I guess
What do you mean? You pick what side you land on based on the air normal or the distant from them. So they still have to guess left or right..
I know exactly what you are talking about now.
That's a standing reset into 50/50. Unless the subsequent combo (assuming the opponent guesses wrong) keeps putting the opponent in the exact same situation - which Raven can't do due to trait expiring and having no way to regain it mid-combo or do a standing reset without it - it is not a vortex. Unless you are doing tiny combos (which is a waste of meter) then you probably won't even get a second standing reset while the trait is up.
Yea I agree. I just didn't stick around long enough with the game to really hit the lab like you did. Good Stuff dude.
Lobo punishes crush from Max range. What are you complaining about?
I don't know raven, but the sure way to test this is to set raven as the 2nd player, and record the 2nd player doing the set up on you, and attempt to block it. (record the knockdown and the follow up. Then control player one, get knocked down and try to block the set up. According to ducky, they character thats knocked down has enough time to walk backwards and force the cross up attempt into a NON crossup jump in.
Yea he just got back to me before you did =P
I just mean in general. And yeah if I can get my fucking trait out without getting blasted lol
It's pretty easy for lobo to get trait in the match up.
He can do it safely at the end of combos, yeah. I don't disagree with that.
Or from full screen or from 3/4 screen. 2 areas where there is little to no risk of doing it.
