General/Other - Ferra/Torr Ferra & Torr General Discussion Thread

[Ardul]

Imo:
Downside is slow startup on launchers. Fastest launcher is f2 - 15 frames. Only lackey can get a faster launcher by using meter. So if a move is safer than -15 ur only getting a 20% punish. That also means his mixups are easy to react to. U have b3 but u wont get much from it.

And Lackey is easliy his best variation imo. Just has many more options that vicious. Vicious only really has the zoning options.

Away from game, but I think Lackey b+2 its slower. You havent an OH unseeable.

 

[Buiu]

Yea its slower and have less range

 

[Shade667]

19 frame overhead is still REALLY slow. 4 frames dont make a difference from 19-23.
Lackey gets more from his anyway dueo to having more options.
The character has other downsides that im sure better players can explain. Thats just my opinion.

 

[Ardul]

d,b+2 is 15 I think.

 

[Wetdoba]

d,b+2 is 15 I think.

That doesn't take into account the time it takes for Ferra to fall down on them though

 

[Mighty Durpyena]

Did you guys ever wonder what Torr looked like?

Spoiler

So NRS modeled Torr's face, but not Jason

 

[Wetdoba]

Holy shit

 

[Forr]

He's beautiful !

 

[Youphemism]

Did you guys ever wonder what Torr looked like?

Spoiler

So NRS modeled Torr's face, but not Jason

Where's that from?

 

[MK Led]

Huh. He's more gaunt than I would have expected, judging from what you can see of his face in the alt.

Where's that from?

Some sort of camera mod on PC perhaps?

 

[Mighty Durpyena]

Where's that from?

I think someone just extracted the models somewhere. There's pictures of other character's faces, like EB and Rain, among others

 

[Shade667]

Did you guys ever wonder what Torr looked like?

Spoiler

So NRS modeled Torr's face, but not Jason

Well, Yeah. No one knows what Jason Looks like.

And who knows, maybe this is for a future skin or something?

 

[Mighty Durpyena]

Well, Yeah. No one knows what Jason Looks like.

And who knows, maybe this is for a future skin or something?

Yeah, but if they seem to never have intended for Torr's face to be seen, yet it's still modeled, but all we got for Jason is

 

[MK Led]

I think someone just extracted the models somewhere. There's pictures of other character's faces, like EB and Rain, among others

You wouldn't happen to have a handy link to these, would you?

 

[Mighty Durpyena]

You wouldn't happen to have a handy link to these, would you?

http://imgur.com/a/JGngG#0

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

has anyone got a use for f4?

if you space it well enough you can follow up b2,3,2+4, run, f4, run, b1,2,1xxBoss Toss, it's best to start fairly close. Also I think it's best use is in the corner, but I need to do some more testing to be sure.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Is ending combos with usually F3,2 your go to? I've been playing around with ending them in B1,2,1xxPnG to see if I can eat their wakeups and punish/mix them up in the process. I'm not sure how functional it really is, though; I'm sure most of my success using it has been because most people ain't nevah faced no Ruthless F/T befo'.

Problem is the second they pick up on what you're doing they delay and blow you up on recovery.

 

[Jaku2011]

Not sure if this has been said and I'm not sure if it's even true, but while playing I'm noticing that njk in the corner seems to reverse wakeup or at least make it seem like Torr will be on the other side but stays on the same side.

 

[Wetdoba]

Not sure if this has been said and I'm not sure if it's even true, but while playing I'm noticing that njk in the corner seems to reverse wakeup or at least make it seem like Torr will be on the other side but stays on the same side.

Torruken in Lackey does that too if they don't tech roll. I follow it up with a neutral jump 3 on their wake up because of they wake up it goes under Torr and whiffs out of the corner so you can punish with F2 back into the corner. If they block it and you do it suuuper late D1 is a true block string afterwards they cant armor out. Otherwise pretty much everything other than the overhead is a frame trap

 

[Jaku2011]

Torruken in Lackey does that too if they don't tech roll. I follow it up with a neutral jump 3 on their wake up because of they wake up it goes under Torr and whiffs out of the corner so you can punish with F2 back into the corner. If they block it and you do it suuuper late D1 is a true block string afterwards they cant armor out. Otherwise pretty much everything other than the overhead is a frame trap

Ya that's usually my go to in the corner I only noticed it reversed wake up when I played a Sun God and he clearly tried to ex command grab on wakeup but was turned around and got ex parry instead. Felt like good ol Injustice

 

[WiseTree]

Hey guys. Being a newbie I was wondering if anyone could explain in what situations would you use Lackey's roll? Whenever I try to use it I either get blown up or end up at their feet. Reading around the forum though I get the impression that it's supposed to be really good, but I just cannot figure out how to use it

 

[chrisofrays]

As a combo ender to switch sides. As a punish, EX through projectiles or if you predict theyre gona wakeup. I rarely throw regular roll out but it can catch people off gaurd because of Lakeys slow movement.

 

[Shade667]

I use it on wakeup, and if they keep getting through it I switch it to charge. But its mostly on wakeup for me.

 

[WiseTree]

As a combo ender to switch sides. As a punish, EX through projectiles or if you predict theyre gona wakeup. I rarely throw regular roll out but it can catch people off gaurd because of Lakeys slow movement.

Isn't charge a better option for projectiles due to more armor and invincibility frames? I remember trying to roll through his-qu-ten's projectile spam and not getting to the enemy.

I use it on wakeup, and if they keep getting through it I switch it to charge. But its mostly on wakeup for me.

Do you use non-ex for wakeup? Somehow I didn't realise that was an option

 

[Shade667]

I use non ex most of the time, but it gets blown up by alot of things. Kung lao especially.

Charge is better, but roll is quick, people dont expect it ive found.
If I really need to get out of the corner or something Ill either ex roll or Ex command grab.