Elbow Dash Punishment Guide

[Chongo]

lolnope

I'd reply asking whats wrong, but then I remembered you said you didn't like Super Mario 64.

SO YOU CAN GET THE FUCK OUT!

 

[InFlames]

lol... he can use invis as wakeup no?

I have never seen anybody wake up invisibility. It's one of those things you never think of doing.

 

[Chongo]

good stuff. The combo of preference isn't the big deal... its getting the right move to punish that is key.

Whether people are lazy or not.... this posts need to exist ... and be stickied I think.

Thanks man.

 

[stamatis]

i think that sector can not connect the 12b1 on block,,,,,,i think!!!!!!!

 

[Squeaker101]

Woo Kang - 213 is waaay better. b3 is 10 frames, while 2 is eight, you'll need all the "leeway" you can get.

Sektor - I'm pretty sure 1(2)b2 doesn't connect. Only the one will it, the 2 will whiff, and you'll be blocking the b2. I could be wrong, as I don't main Sektor.

Nice guide Chongo, only I can't abuse it now.

 

[Smoke_Of_Finland]

i think that sector can not connect the 12b1 on block,,,,,,i think!!!!!!!

The 2 in the 1,2,b1 whiffs without a quick dash in if I remember correctly, but 2,1,tele is a good starter too.

 

[Prinz]

For Jade: 12, df4, dash, d1, staff grab is 18%.

 

[THTB]

Woo Kang - 213 is waaay better. b3 is 10 frames, while 2 is eight, you'll need all the "leeway" you can get.

Punishing dash with a 10f move isn't so hard you may want to take a quicker option. b3 works just fine.

 

[Chongo]

The 2 in the 1,2,b1 whiffs without a quick dash in if I remember correctly, but 2,1,tele is a good starter too.

Orly? I didn't know that. I'll fix it.

For Jade: 12, df4, dash, d1, staff grab is 18%.

I'll fix that too.

 

[Squeaker101]

Punishing dash with a 10f move isn't so hard you may want to take a quicker option. b3 works just fine.

I never said it was bad, but in the OP Chongo said "best" punishment. 2 is eight frames, b3 is 10 frames. 2 is better, and leads to about the same amount of damage if not more.

b3 works fine, but you'll probably have more success with 2. That's all I meant.

 

[Tokiwartoothxdk]

for kung lao, why not use 2,1 insteas of 1,1,2?
2 is 7 frames while 1 is 10 frames

 

[LEGEND]

Orly? I didn't know that. I'll fix it.

a quick dash before 12B1 usually fixes the problem or you can just go with B34, its slower but it won't miss

i wouldn't go for 2 or 21 as punishment cause even those wiff on a properly spaced Elbow dash and don't always connect in time if you dash in to do them

overall i'd say canceling a dash into 12B1 is the best option. Online though i'd play it safe with 11B1

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Woo Kang - 213 is waaay better. b3 is 10 frames, while 2 is eight, you'll need all the "leeway" you can get.

Sektor - I'm pretty sure 1(2)b2 doesn't connect. Only the one will it, the 2 will whiff, and you'll be blocking the b2. I could be wrong, as I don't main Sektor.

Nice guide Chongo, only I can't abuse it now.

You can dash in and get it off in time, or try b2 into the tele-cut with a 2 frame window.

 

[Seapeople]

LBSH this is sticky worthy. People using any character will really benefit from this thread, good stuff Chongo

 

[Chongo]

LBSH this is sticky worthy. People using any character will really benefit from this thread, good stuff Chongo

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

 

[Chongo]

Fixed Sektor.

 

[THTB]

I never said it was bad, but in the OP Chongo said "best" punishment. 2 is eight frames, b3 is 10 frames. 2 is better, and leads to about the same amount of damage if not more.

b3 works fine, but you'll probably have more success with 2. That's all I meant.

I know, but it does work. And b312 has a better wall carry factor.

 

[Alien Substance]

Kratos- I'll need a little help with this one. Alien Substance


*Note*- I do not take credit for this at all. A lot of people helped me on this, and it would be wrong for me to take any credit.

1xxHead of Helios~F+2xxHermes Dash Cancel~F+4,2 (dash) F+4,2(hold 2), 4. 42%. 3-frame leeway.

(Dem leeways)

 

[Chongo]

1xxHead of Helios~F+2xxHermes Dash Cancel~F+4,2 (dash) F+4,2(hold 2), 4. 42%. 3-frame leeway.

(Dem leeways)

Gotta love dem leeways.

Thanks a lot, I'll fix it right now.

 

[Simon Wayne]

Raiden's should be changed to 1212, shocker, f2, vicinity blast, 334, superman.

More leeway and this combo does 33% damage I believe.

 

[Chongo]

Raiden's should be changed to 1212, shocker, f2, vicinity blast, 334, superman.

More leeway and this combo does 33% damage I believe.

Raiden can shocker after a 1212?

I'll fix it. Thank you.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Raiden's should be changed to 1212, shocker, f2, vicinity blast, 334, superman.

More leeway and this combo does 33% damage I believe.

You mean 1, 2, 1 / Shocker - 1 / VB >> 3, 3, 4 >> D1 / Superman?

 

[Simon Wayne]

Raiden can shocker after a 1212?

I'll fix it. Thank you.

Just went into practice mode to make sure I was right.

It's 121, shocker, f2, vicinity blast, 334, superman and it's 33 percent damage. I'm not sure how to figure up the leeway.

 

[redeyes]

SO playing online i should go for...? what a grab or something?

 

[Chongo]

Just went into practice mode to make sure I was right.

It's 121, shocker, f2, vicinity blast, 334, superman and it's 33 percent damage. I'm not sure how to figure up the leeway.

DA LEEZWAY FORMULA- Elbow Dash on block is -15. Raidens standing one is 9.
15-9= 6 frame leeway.