LOL thnx for the compliment to Denzell but if u told him sub sucked, he'd prolly laugh at u for saying. He has corner pressure out of this world, ice clone keeps ppl away and from jumping, and his d4 is very good. Tbh, even if he doesn't use sub vs kitana, that's because it's a tourny and money is on the line. But in casuals, i dnt think he'd mind using sub vs kitana because it's not like kitana beats him dominantly healthwise. Anyone can make sub look good if they didn't play him so wrong. Same thing with scorp. Play him like me and slips play him and you'll learn he's better than what a unviable tier list says he is.