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Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
I've played casuals vs. a good KL here and yeah, the fact that we can EX PW in the gaps is ridic. Even with setups to break armor.
 

Agilaz

It has begun
You guys think they'll ever make it so EX Punchwalk recaptures? It seems kinda ridiculous that I don't always get my full combo when I spend a bar AND connect with my opponent.
 

Chakk dizzle

That's baaaaane
Kotal Khan is an insanely rough matchup for me. All of his normals beat goros, even d4 gets blown up kotals f2 if you try to check his advancing mids. I'm sure I could be missing something, but footsies is definitely not an option in this matchup. I play TF, maybe it's better as other variations but IDK.
 

Agilaz

It has begun
Kotal Khan is an insanely rough matchup for me. All of his normals beat goros, even d4 gets blown up kotals f2 if you try to check his advancing mids. I'm sure I could be missing something, but footsies is definitely not an option in this matchup. I play TF, maybe it's better as other variations but IDK.
I ALWAYS pick TF against Kotal. Up close Kotal can just go ham, so I always work to keep him out.
 

EMPEROR_KNICKS

Master of Kombat(frauds)
Kotal Khan is an insanely rough matchup for me. All of his normals beat goros, even d4 gets blown up kotals f2 if you try to check his advancing mids. I'm sure I could be missing something, but footsies is definitely not an option in this matchup. I play TF, maybe it's better as other variations but IDK.
When you are playing a kotal, armor through his gaps and try to zone him. Basically if Kotal in any variation does b122 into a move except for overhead sword in war god he is unsafe and there is a gap and you can armor, so basically if you see him doing something with a gap punish with xxpw, if you see he is baiting you use xxxstomp, or xxshokan grab. Also if a kotal ever does b14 into a special there is always a gap. Also if you touch kotal you can pressure with stagger f3, in tigrar firebreath is plus 12(since thats the one you play) b12u2 is plus 2, and many more strings, that are plus that you should use. Also zone kotal and try baiting his jumps.
 

Chakk dizzle

That's baaaaane
When you are playing a kotal, armor through his gaps and try to zone him. Basically if Kotal in any variation does b122 into a move except for overhead sword in war god he is unsafe and there is a gap and you can armor, so basically if you see him doing something with a gap punish with xxpw, if you see he is baiting you use xxxstomp, or xxshokan grab. Also if a kotal ever does b14 into a special there is always a gap. Also if you touch kotal you can pressure with stagger f3, in tigrar firebreath is plus 12(since thats the one you play) b12u2 is plus 2, and many more strings, that are plus that you should use. Also zone kotal and try baiting his jumps.
Appreciate it. I guess I need to get more familiar with those gaps.
 

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
I was today at GDA and was playing against @Frankie_W , he plays Commando Kano. Apparently Commando Kano can parry Goro's cg with his LOW parry. Yes, you read correctly his LOW parry. Something to think about. Hope it gets fixed, unless there is a reason this works that way.

@Espio
@Decay
@Mortal Komhat
@All Goro players

@colt , could we have an answer for this if possible please?
 
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Hey guys just picked up goro been practicing punch walk on block into ex punch walk can't seem 2 get consistently any tips seems like up gotta be frame perfect
 

Espio

Kokomo
I was today at GDA and was playing against @Frankie_W , he plays Commando Kano. Apparently Commando Kano can parry Goro's cg with his LOW parry. Yes, you read correctly his LOW parry. Something to think about. Hope it gets fixed, unless there is a reason this works that way.

@Espio
@Decay
@Mortal Komhat
@All Goro players

@colt , could we have an answer for this if possible please?
That sounds really dumb actually, but it reminds me of something very important. We should all collaborate and make a thread on bugs, fixes and other things we're looking at for quality of life changes Goro could heavily benefit from. That's my biggest thing for him right now is quality of life fixes.

I also did not get this tag, thankfully I was creeping through the forums heh.

Hey guys just picked up goro been practicing punch walk on block into ex punch walk can't seem 2 get consistently any tips seems like up gotta be frame perfect
You said you were doing FBRC's with someone else correct? You're probably doing it too fast after blocked ex punch walk maybe? I cannot think of why it would be an issue to get it to come out unless you're playing in a garbage connection in which case abandon ship lol.
 

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
That sounds really dumb actually, but it reminds me of something very important. We should all collaborate and make a thread on bugs, fixes and other things we're looking at for quality of life changes Goro could heavily benefit from. That's my biggest thing for him right now is quality of life fixes.

I also did not get this tag, thankfully I was creeping through the forums heh.



You said you were doing FBRC's with someone else correct? You're probably doing it too fast after blocked ex punch walk maybe? I cannot think of why it would be an issue to get it to come out unless you're playing in a garbage connection in which case abandon ship lol.

The only issues i have found atm, are the cg whiffing on characters with strange hurtbox and the thing with Commanda Kano. The hitbox of the cg must be increased like Sun God KK's hitbox did, cause is this getting really frustrating. I ve lost a lot of games because of that. Also, why Goro does not have a tick from d4? I think he is the only grappler who does not have a tick from that poke.

There are also some others regarding TF Goro's ex low fireball whiffing in the corner after certain strings.
 

Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
I was today at GDA and was playing against @Frankie_W , he plays Commando Kano. Apparently Commando Kano can parry Goro's cg with his LOW parry. Yes, you read correctly his LOW parry. Something to think about. Hope it gets fixed, unless there is a reason this works that way.

@Espio
@Decay
@Mortal Komhat
@All Goro players
Probs not gonna get fixed. @CanadianBaconX tested some shit out with that parry and it catches really dumb stuff. I think it was something like Johnny's standing 4 has to be Low Parried, etc.

But yea Goro is not the only one. That he can low parry the command grab requires him to actually know that, and to execute it in time to grab a 8f grab. I'm none too worried personally.
 

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
Probs not gonna get fixed. @CanadianBaconX tested some shit out with that parry and it catches really dumb stuff. I think it was something like Johnny's standing 4 has to be Low Parried, etc.

But yea Goro is not the only one. That he can low parry the command grab requires him to actually know that, and to execute it in time to grab a 8f grab. I'm none too worried personally.

Yeah, well shits like these need to be fixed though. There is no reaction there, there is only a read. I just think its stupid. If that was a low cg then i could understand it, but this? Nope.
 

Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
Yea, much as I'd like for inconsistencies like that to get fixed, it's one of those things I doubt they'll do.
 

DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
What do you guys use your + frames for? So let's say I land a B121 or a 11 and I'm now +2. As options you of course have B12U2 (as a 'frame trap' if they don't have meter or they lack a good way to deal with the 7-frame B1) and your patented Shokan Grab. Besides that, are there any other noteworthy options? Kuatan Warrior btw.
 

Espio

Kokomo
What do you guys use your + frames for? So let's say I land a B121 or a 11 and I'm now +2. As options you of course have B12U2 (as a 'frame trap' if they don't have meter or they lack a good way to deal with the 7-frame B1) and your patented Shokan Grab. Besides that, are there any other noteworthy options? Kuatan Warrior btw.
I mean, aside from those you have down 1, down 3, down 4, regular throw and doing slower strings after you've conditioned people to block like 2,1. Goro is all about conditioning people to block a certain way. If you really wanna mind fuck people when you're plus on block, just block or back dash that'll make them wanna poke or push buttons then the next time they try it you can blow them up hard for onl He's like any other character with slighlty plus normals, it's all the same concept. If you want more guaranteed stuff after frame traps, the other variations have that going on as well.
 
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DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
I mean, aside from those you have down 1, down 3, down 4, regular throw and doing slower strings after you've conditioned people to block like 2,1. Goro is all about conditioning people to block a certain way. If you really wanna mind fuck people when you're plus on block, just block or back dash that'll make them wanna poke or push buttons then the next time they try it you can blow them up hard for it.
Do you have some gameplay I can watch? Interested in seeing how the conditioning works out in practice. I'll definitely hit up the video thread, but if you have some good matches you can show me it's appreciated.
 

Espio

Kokomo
Do you have some gameplay I can watch? Interested in seeing how the conditioning works out in practice. I'll definitely hit up the video thread, but if you have some good matches you can show me it's appreciated.
I'm not home right now, I'm on mobile so if you would like you can check out my YouTube channel. I need to update with new/more recent content, but conditioning works the same regardless of your charcter choice. Simple example, I used back 1,2,1 and people keep trying to poke and lose to my six frame down 3/1, they get conditioned to not try poking back and instead might just respect the frames or they might back dash or armor. This conditioning might allow me to do a slower option like a throw or back 3, which is like 13 frames. That's all conditioning is really is forcing somebody to behave a certain way.
 
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