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galindo

Noob
F+4 ground skull is not that difficult. Even if you use the full F+4,3,4 into the ground skull, Shang is still at a plus 2 advantage. By that logic, Kabal would be garbage because he is so execution based. And Yet he is still top tier. High level players will have their execution down.

But it might remain to be seen. As of right now, the only strategy I have seen Baraka players use is to build meter and uses EX blade charge. This approach is easily beaten.
Didn't mean it quite that way, f4, has very short range, so you're not always gonna pull it off
I personally like to reach in with d4+skull.


Also you can even poke shang tsung out of the f4+3+4 before the skull comes out!

And if you block it high you can beat out any of his options with a d1
 

swag1

EX smash solves all
I disagree on Nightwolf in C Tier purely because he can absorb the Instant Air Fireballs of Kitana, Kabal, and Liu Kang. He can also absorb (EX Reflect) Cyrax's bombs.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I disagree on Nightwolf in C Tier purely because he can absorb the Instant Air Fireballs of Kitana, Kabal, and Liu Kang. He can also absorb (EX Reflect) Cyrax's bombs.
Im not being a dick when i say this but thats a pretty poor reason.

NW has worlds of problems opening players up
Heavily effected by cross ups due to negative edge problems
also reflect doesnt even work correctly most the time on IAFs

Listen trust me, NW is c tier....he has issues

did you know liu kang gets a full 45% combo off an attempted shoulder?
 

Hitoshura

Head Cage
...f tier...rlly? I have never seen an F tier b4 in a fighter in my life aside from MVC2 with Roll.

The lowest tier if seen besides that was JoJo's bizarre adventures were there was an E tier.

also wheres the matchup numbers? You kinda need those....just saying
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Thats a bit of a fault in the tier list, certain characters could go 5-5 in every matchup and be S tier, while characters that have 1 or 2 bad matchups will be lower even if the rest of their matchups are 7-3 or something along those lines.

So yeah matchup numbers would be useful
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
last time i check baraka had a 7 frames 100% spin that make him no so easy to pressure
Lol exactly. I understand the Shang matchup being 5-5 because he cant spin. However that is overlooked in many matchups I find.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
He is 5-5 with her. although I must say as A Baraka player Mileena is a bitch to fightXD


are you kidding me? she out zones him, and kills his wakeup and blade rush. Seriously... you guys are really overestimating baraka on an extreme level. His blade rush is punishable at almost every range. I can't think of one person who can constantly have it hit at the unpunishable distance. She can block and go into roll for a full combo basically every time and really he can't punish her very hard. She can basically poke the shit out of him and he can't really do anything about it. His reads have to be GODLIKE the entire match to win, whereas she just has to react and punish.

Are we playing the same game?
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart


are you kidding me? she out zones him, and kills his wakeup and blade rush. Seriously... you guys are really overestimating baraka on an extreme level. His blade rush is punishable at almost every range. I can't think of one person who can constantly have it hit at the unpunishable distance. She can block and go into roll for a full combo basically every time and really he can't punish her very hard. She can basically poke the shit out of him and he can't really do anything about it. His reads have to be GODLIKE the entire match to win, whereas she just has to react and punish.

Are we playing the same game?
That is what I have been told by Baraka tourney players. Sure she outzones him, but again he has EX blade charge. Blade rush is safe at midscreen, I have tested this myself. Her roll is what really kills Baraka, because it goes under spin, however a blocked roll results in Baraka frametraps, so it is sort of a risk reward type of thing. And blade charge will stop her D4, if her D4 is like many of the other low pokes in the game.

Also, I really dont think giving him four maybe five good matchups is "overestimating" him.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I can't think of one person who can constantly have it hit at the unpunishable distance.
I can. >_>

Baraka's charge is too punishable to throw out all the time vs Mileena, though, that is correct. It's a punish tool, really, and doubles as a block check, and allows Baraka to play a solid footsies game vs her. Her range, outside of d4, isn't too amazing, so yeah. It's a battle of fundamentals.

No one overestimates Baraka...moreso that he is underrated more than anything because people don't know how he plays.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
THTB explains stuff a lot better than I do lol. Baraka matchup discussion is kind of hard unless you talk to both Baraka players and the character being discussed's players, because A lot of times many people dont really know Baraka and make assumptions that are either outdated or false. Mileena MAY be somewhere along the lines of 5.5-4.5, but if you had to round it would be closer to 5-5 than 4-6.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
I can. >_>

Baraka's charge is too punishable to throw out all the time vs Mileena, though, that is correct. It's a punish tool, really, and doubles as a block check, and allows Baraka to play a solid footsies game vs her. Her range, outside of d4, isn't too amazing, so yeah. It's a battle of fundamentals.

No one overestimates Baraka...moreso that he is underrated more than anything because people don't know how he plays.
But he is a novelty. Like Noob. Once you get him moving and stay in on him... all of his tools are pretty much shot to hell. I don't think I underestimate him at all. He is a "jack of all trades" he can zone a bit... he has a good poke move... he has some frame traps. But he does non of them well, and any mobile type character will blow him up. Mileena is one of them. She can constantly move away, and can avoid exBlade Rush with a simple air sai.
The main thing that though, is that SHE doesn't have to read him in the same way he has to read her. He has to make awesome reads to fool Mileena. Mileena simply can pressure Baraka into making a mistake. That is why I feel it is in her favor easily.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
It's really not that bad. It really is just a fundamentals match and neither one actually wins it. Baraka isn't going to be EX charging through air sai. He'll just inch underneath it and get into his ideal range, which isn't up close, btw.

Baraka's defense isn't even bad anyway, simply because he has an armor attack on top of a 7f spin that is among the best AAs in the game.

The matchup is definitely 5-5. Baraka isn't a novelty character and hasn't been since he got all those buffs in the first patch. There's a reason I prefer him in matchups over Reptile.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
It's really not that bad. It really is just a fundamentals match and neither one actually wins it. Baraka isn't going to be EX charging through air sai. He'll just inch underneath it and get into his ideal range, which isn't up close, btw.

Baraka's defense isn't even bad anyway, simply because he has an armor attack on top of a 7f spin that is among the best AAs in the game.

The matchup is definitely 5-5. Baraka isn't a novelty character and hasn't been since he got all those buffs in the first patch. There's a reason I prefer him in matchups over Reptile.
QFT
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
THTB said:
It's really not that bad. It really is just a fundamentals match and neither one actually wins it. Baraka isn't going to be EX charging through air sai. He'll just inch underneath it and get into his ideal range, which isn't up close, btw.

Baraka's defense isn't even bad anyway, simply because he has an armor attack on top of a 7f spin that is among the best AAs in the game.

The matchup is definitely 5-5. Baraka isn't a novelty character and hasn't been since he got all those buffs in the first patch. There's a reason I prefer him in matchups over Reptile.
Well-said. I agree.

I think Baraka would easily be a high mid tier character if only his projectile had a better recovery. He has everything else. His offense, defense, footsies, pokes, AAs, etc. are all average or better.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Well-said. I agree.

I think Baraka would easily be a high mid tier character if only his projectile had a better recovery. He has everything else. His offense, defense, footsies, pokes, AAs, etc. are all average or better.
That would be the day...
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Yeah, the only thing stopping him is the projectile recovery. He has everything else. His whiff punishing is so good, too...what I like about him over Reptile is that because charge is down-forward, it's RIDICUOUSLY easy to react to stuff to just punish. Reptile's elbow being back-forward hinders it a little in those regards.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
Well-said. I agree.

I think Baraka would easily be a high mid tier character if only his projectile had a better recovery. He has everything else. His offense, defense, footsies, pokes, AAs, etc. are all average or better.
yes i agree,
i really hoped when baraka got his buff in last patch that spark would get better recovery but that we got new spin,new d1 and ex charge buff, i didnt make to much of a stink about it, as though,maybe i was just being greedy wanting it
how and ever there more than likely wont be any more buff/nerf patches for this game so spark we have now is the spark we have to live with

(but seriously nrs, if u want to make a patch just to buff barakas spark i wont complain,just tell everyone its for better net code,no one has to know haha)
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
How's that? As far as I'm aware Liu Kang can't get 45% midscreen at all. Well unless he uses x-ray I guess.
hmm look up atl redd video

he does like 4 b3 1 2 then you're in a corner where he does some other shannanigans

All i know is everytime fly used to use NW against Liu he ate 44%-45%
 

Robotic

Gentleman.
I have a hard time against good Barakas...shout outs to Galindo.

Barakas that know what they're doing are a foot-long jalepeno sub full of terror.
 
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