General/Other - Kotal Kahn Kotal Kahn General Discussion

[Shark Tank]

What is iirc?

if I recall correctly

 

[Shark Tank]

The sun god throw advantage. Mmmm, oohhmmmn

 

[RYX]

yo

did they make the animation of air grab slower?

 

[Shark Tank]

Okay so AA throw seems a little better, I'm testing it against sonya's obnoxious jump 1 and it seems to beat it out where prepatch it would have lost. Still got to do it earlier than I would like but I'll take it.

 

[Reauxbot]

Okay so AA throw seems a little better, I'm testing it against sonya's obnoxious jump 1 and it seems to beat it out where reptach it would have lost. Still got to do it earlier than I would like but I'll take it.

I feel like Scorpions jump kick is one of the bigger air threats. Seems to beat a lot of air to air moves out. And even some legit anti airs.

 

[Beef Supreme]

The sun god throw advantage. Mmmm, oohhmmmn

Does it go through air attacks now, or can jump ins still hit KK?

 

[Shark Tank]

I feel like Scorpions jump kick is one of the bigger air threats. Seems to beat a lot of air to air moves out. And even some legit anti airs.

Work in progress. From memory kotals aa seems to beat some jump ins a frame later than they would pre-patch. but I'm not one to trust intuition.

If my pc versions of mkx doesn't freeze I'll test the difference on the AA and see what the exact difference is. PC version is good for something

 

[Shark Tank]

Does it go through air attacks now, or can jump ins still hit KK?

Talking about aa throw? If you don't do it early enough it can still get snuffed. However I think it works better a few frames later the pre patch throw. I'm going to test the pre-patch kotal out

 

[RYX]

his combo damage is pretty much the same due to scaling but his grab is soo good, mm

edit: nevermind, he gets 45% off an antiair now. hot damn

 

[Qwark28]

his combo damage is pretty much the same due to scaling but his grab is soo good, mm

edit: nevermind, he gets 45% off an antiair now. hot damn

Lots of his combos do more damage, F1B2 notably.

 

[RYX]

114~totem is probably at least +3 now. hitting them as fast as I can, they barely get off the ground before getting knocked out of it.

it's also good to know that if they get caught jumping by D1 you can hitconfirm it into 39% meterless if you put up the crystal totem. (might whiff at the lowest point possible of the jump, but otherwise this works) d1, f2 f2, b14~air grab. if you hit them really low then do d1 f1b2 b14~air grab for 30% instead

Lots of his combos do more damage, F1B2 notably.

yeah i noticed that after i posted, i was doing 114 and f2 which seem to scale them more appropriately

 

[Shark Tank]

Okay so difference I noticed, test with scorpions forward jump 1.

Pre-patch kotal at far range will trade with jump kick. The inital hit will knock scorpions out of the air but kotal still gets kicked, ps4 version kotal wins in a similar situation. Note scorpions jump 1 still has fast startup so using aa throw against it at closer ranges still sucks because you can't react fast enough, so it seems at ranges or situations where KK would previously trade, he now wins.

Needs more testing though.

 

[Shark Tank]

C'mon shadow play, time to actually be useful.

 

[RYX]

btw soul scorch is a lot better now, abuse it for level 1 + 2 chokes because you get frame advantage off of 114, a chunk of meter and a guessing game

if you wanna give up L3 then you get a massive chunk of meter, i'd say use it if you need armor/breaker soon

 

[Reauxbot]

Starting to sound like Kotal Kahn is moving on up.
I picked a good time to play thr Emperor

 

[RYX]

Blood Totem is still funked up with the meter drain property but at the very least the opponent is getting -less- meter off of the stuff that didn't work before

 

[Belial]

After checking kotal new buffs more closely I realized that they make no difference. Kotal Khan that is not War God is still crap and will remain so forever it seems.

 

[RYX]

212 is now a safe totem setup vs everyone, Reptile's EX slide can't punish it on wakeup

so excited

After checking kotal new buffs more closely I realized that they make no difference. Kotal Khan that is not War God is still crap and will remain so forever it seems.

time 4 u to go

 

[Reauxbot]

212 is now a safe totem setup vs everyone, Reptile's EX slide can't punish it on wakeup

so excited


time 4 u to go

As im in the Kahn threads im seeing your name very constant.
Whats the learning curve for Blood God?
I want to play more than just War God.
Seems hes a bit better now.

 

[RYX]

As im in the Kahn threads im seeing your name very constant.
Whats the learning curve for Blood God?
I want to play more than just War God.
Seems hes a bit better now.

Blood God is probably the easiest to get the hang of since he's very barebones, most of his variation specific curves comes from keeping track of totems and knowing which one to use

outside of that anything you learned in War or Sun will carry over to Blood

 

[Shark Tank]

This is the situation I'm talking about btw, I currently can't recreate that on post-patch kotal

(The last attempt)

 

[Reauxbot]

Blood God is probably the easiest to get the hang of since he's very barebones, most of his variation specific curves comes from keeping track of totems and knowing which one to use

outside of that anything you learned in War or Sun will carry over to Blood

Outside his mixup options. Why isnt there a living guide for Kahn? Seems like hes got some options. But its rough going through all the threads to find whats what.

 

[Shark Tank]

yo

did they make the animation of air grab slower?

Now that you say that...

 

[Belial]

212 is now a safe totem setup vs everyone, Reptile's EX slide can't punish it on wakeup

so excited

It was safe before

 

[KeyserSoze]

After checking kotal new buffs more closely I realized that they make no difference. Kotal Khan that is not War God is still crap and will remain so forever it seems.

Trolling? Or . . . ?