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Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
There are no footsies in Injustice=Bill
Injustice takes no fundamentals=Bill
Raven in top 5=Bill

Zoidberg747's Raven=...Bill:(
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Batman actually has for sure 4 bad matchups. MMH GL Aquaman and Zod. There is no Batman in the world who can beat Jupiter Theo DJT and Pig respectively. Hell, there is no Batman in the world that can beat my MMH GL Aquaman or Zod. I'd put money on it. Those are guaranteed bad matchups.

On top of those 4 guaranteed bad matchups, people debate Batman also losing to Lobo @Chaosphere and people also debate Batman losing Raven @Blind_Ducky and people also debate Batman losing to Nightwing @EMPR_MURK. And other matchups.

So Batman is for sure not top 5. He's probably not even top 10, if he is then he is #10 exactly. Honestly Batman is kind of a bill
All of Batman's offense is negated by blocking low and using pushblock. Batman pressure is a bill.
 

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
Why wouldn't Bane body GL? He outfootsies him. The b+1 guessing game is good for Bane. He DESTROYS him on knockdown. Wafflez played the MU for months and could barely get games.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Why wouldn't Bane body GL? He outfootsies him. The b+1 guessing game is good for Bane. He DESTROYS him on knockdown. Wafflez played the MU for months and could barely get games.
"because minigun"
No one seems to remember when I jumped over it for a full combo punish for the match at FR :(
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Yeah well it's hard to get out of pools with 9-1 matchups lol
I can imagine. Still, I've given up on the idea that Lex v Bane is even. Trait armor too strong.

Even still, the moment you hit the corner its a done deal thanks to the new sweep tech stuff. You don't dash fast enough to get out of the corner, and everything you have gets stuffed out.
 

cR Biohazard

Team Torr
Why wouldn't Bane body GL? He outfootsies him. The b+1 guessing game is good for Bane. He DESTROYS him on knockdown. Wafflez played the MU for months and could barely get games.
Bane's d1 gets beat by GL's b1 in the neutral game, a majority of the match isn't actually played in the footsie range though, Bane is always being kept at bay with rockets and minigun. Missiles are not the way to approach this match, yes you can meter burn the missile to get in the lantern's might combo, but minigun and rockets are what keeps Bane out. Agreed Bane wrecks GL when he gets in
 

cR Biohazard

Team Torr
I can imagine. Still, I've given up on the idea that Lex v Bane is even. Trait armor too strong.

Even still, the moment you hit the corner its a done deal thanks to the new sweep tech stuff. You don't dash fast enough to get out of the corner, and everything you have gets stuffed out.
Isn't it a done deal even without the sweep tech stuff, lex doesn't have options when he gets knocked down. Or does he. Revolver you know that the vacuum move is throw immune right? And about the corner sweep tech, isn't it better to just go ham when you knock them down than to set up something that will waste venom time and give you the same result?
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
I can imagine. Still, I've given up on the idea that Lex v Bane is even. Trait armor too strong.

Even still, the moment you hit the corner its a done deal thanks to the new sweep tech stuff. You don't dash fast enough to get out of the corner, and everything you have gets stuffed out.
What do you mean? I can still make right reads like everyone else can, I just don't have an easy way out like some others do
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
Isn't it a done deal even without the sweep tech stuff, lex doesn't have options when he gets knocked down. Or does he. Revolver you know that the vacuum move is throw immune right?
Yeah, but you need to time it well and it can be super risky obviously.
 

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
Bane's d1 gets beat by GL's b1 in the neutral game, a majority of the match isn't actually played in the footsie range though, Bane is always being kept at bay with rockets and minigun. Missiles are not the way to approach this match, yes you can meter burn the missile to get in the lantern's might combo, but minigun and rockets are what keeps Bane out. Agreed Bane wrecks GL when he gets in

Bane blocking GL's b+1 is a guess in Bane's favor though. It is extremely dangerous for GL to use his best footsies tool. I do not think GL zoning is strong enough to make up for that.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
What do you mean? I can still make right reads like everyone else can, I just don't have an easy way out like some others do
No I mean literally.
You have nothing by that point. The sweep tech plus your laggy dashes and huge hitbox makes it so if you hit the corner, the only way out is if the Bane mistimes it.
For a lot of characters its hard, we can tag batgirl on her way out.
Lex gets his dome tapped by our toes if he dashes forward, our persisting hitbox on the way down catches his backdash vulnerability, and we go clean over corps charge and the other WUs while still getting full combo punishes.


Like when you can beat batgirl teleport with a body splash, that's saying something.
 

cR Biohazard

Team Torr
Bane blocking GL's b+1 is a guess in Bane's favor though. It is extremely dangerous for GL to use his best footsies tool. I do not think GL zoning is strong enough to make up for that.
True Bane can just punish a blocked b1 with double punch, I wish I'd recorded some of my sets with King James at SJ to show you that GL can play a great zoning game against Bane
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
No I mean literally.
You have nothing by that point. The sweep tech plus your laggy dashes and huge hitbox makes it so if you hit the corner, the only way out is if the Bane mistimes it.
For a lot of characters its hard, we can tag batgirl on her way out.
Lex gets his dome tapped by our toes if he dashes forward, our persisting hitbox on the way down catches his backdash vulnerability, and we go clean over corps charge and the other WUs while still getting full combo punishes.


Like when you can beat batgirl teleport with a body splash, that's saying something.
I actually don't know what sweep tech you're referring to
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
I actually don't know what sweep tech you're referring to
I have a jist video somewhere, one second.

Here is the basic demonstration of what it does.


This one shows the directional flipping that happens.


This one shows it beating out cartwheel and smoke bomb.

So on so forth. Lex has an especially hard time getting out because for some reason we can tag both dash types on their way out because of their lack of full invuln and our huge hitbox, plus they are really laggy and take a while to really get anywhere. The most obvious showing of it is in the 3rd video with how high up we tag batgirl with the splash while she is cartwheeling.
 

HoneyBee

Flash God Lord
I mean, the best Hawkgirl in the world thinks HG beats Flash but no one cares and Flash is auto top 5. We're assuming Bane's MU chart is worst case scenario and these Flash/WW MU chart with like zero losing MU are fact.
No chance HG beats Flash. PPJ is literally the only HG I've played that went even with me. I body all other HGs free and I repeat he went even with me. It's 5-5.

Saying Bane is top 5 and Flash isn't is a bill.

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