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IMakeItL00kC00L

Do not provoke a god
Bane not being top 5. He's top 5. No way he isn't. He is 4th or 5th. Fuck the downplayers.
Bane loses to Superman. Bunch of garbage. Bane plays footsies deals with zoning just fine and murders him on knockdown. 5-5.
Bane losing to MMH. Wrong. Not as many people think this but some do. We can armor through all orb cancels punish martian grab and f12 does not actually punish double punch on block. 5-5
Bane not beating Aquaman. Footsies game is even or in our favor, he's destroyed on knockdown, trait isn't an issue with grab.
Bane CW not being that horrible and only 6-4. If you think this you are dumb or ignorant to how bad it is. The fact that I have beaten Bit in tournament is almost entirely due to the fact it's a 7-3. He's far smarter and has more experience with fighting games. If I pick up a character that goes 5-5 with her I'll get raped 95% of the time. Bane demolishes CW harder than almost any other character. Maybe Joker is worse off, but not by much.
21 being the deciding factor of the Bane Flash mu. Yeah sure that string is great but look at the range vs d2 and d1. Nope.
Bane not beating Harley. If I consistently beat every Harley I play except for Saltface because I've yet to play his Harley, I will wait to be convinced. I see it 6-4 Bane's favor.
Bane does not lose to Sinestro
Bane beats Deathstroke 6-4. This is fact.
Bane definitely beats Lobo 7-3.
Online tactics are a bill offline. Bullshit they are. They're a bill once I get punished. While I was frequenting GBS I didn't see Venom Uppercut MB punishes consistently. Punish me or hold that otherwise don't talk.
Tick throws being reactable. Nope.
GL doing well vs Bane potentially 6-4 GL favor. Yeah that's a crock. "Durr he has minigun" same shit as "durr trait and lasers" you're wrong. Bane blows everything after a b1 up for free with armor, wins footsie game because of armor, minigun is a bill and only keeps him out temporarily, and GL has no chance getting up. He's worse off than CW in that regard.
DD Bane being even. Bane gives DD hell. When DD's best tool, his MB Venom guessing game, is actually in Bane's favor? Yeah don't tell me that shit is even, it isn't.
KF Bane being 5-5. Bane wins the mu. She isn't getting up and her zoning isn't impossible to deal with.

Alright I think I'm done now. Yall downplay the fuck out of Bane.
Yoooo he went innnnnnnnnnnn
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
You know if bane does a normal and cancels into any special move while trait is active it's a big FU to pushblocking right...? He just armors through it. Why should people waste meter pushblocking to achive absolutely nothing?

No shit. I main him. Pushblock the special and Bane's back to playing your game though.
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO GUESS WHICH SPECIAL HE IS GOING TO DO IN ORDER TO PUSHBLOCK

Yeah and the guess is any special vs command grab. Like I said, you have to make a read but you can lay there and take it from him until you die with four meters or go for a read and get back in the match.

Once again, oki is HEAVILY in Bane's favor in certain matchups but it's not guaranteed game over. Of the multiple reads he has to make to keep you down and take your lifebar you can hope to catch on, make a read and get up at least once or twice.
 

KingHippo

Alternative-Fact Checker
Then why do I get blown up trying to talk about what ares can do in match ups? From these so called top players?

Because it's lliterally shit. Like it's trolling up playing, not in depth matchup discussion. Like, haha, we get it, moustaches and the god of war, like we got it. But when you try to talk Ares and you got like...

"And at best if I get first hit into 50% then you cant zone me, you cant chip me without trait, and ill eat that all day, cause end ot the day if you fail to open me up im still winning and now its my turn. Ares can literally spam de if you dont have zod balls started up already."

This isn't constructive in the least, it's just upplaying cause lol Ares. My friend @4x4lo8o can't even get real honest Ares MU talk going cause you're just spamming threads with up playing that isn't conductive in the least. Maybe if every once in a while you dropped the schtick people would listen.
 

Kyu

CHOO CHOO BANE TRAIN
Is Injustice the first fighting game to have a top five character with 2-8/3-7 matchups? I think so!
Deg and PPJ both say Zat only beats Bane 6-4, @GGA Max your opinion would be appreciated. Flash I only see as a 6-4, but @RM_Biohazard has played it more than any of us so I need your opinion on it as well. Bane is for sure a top 5 character, also DD is not a better character than him.
 

Mr Aquaman

Armored Launcher
Administrator
Premium Supporter
"And at best if I get first hit into 50% then you cant zone me, you cant chip me without trait, and ill eat that all day, cause end ot the day if you fail to open me up im still winning and now its my turn. Ares can literally spam de if you dont have zod balls started up already."
lol hold on
 

GGA Max

Well-Known Member
Deg and PPJ both say Zat only beats Bane 6-4, @GGA Max your opinion would be appreciated. Flash I only see as a 6-4, but @RM_Biohazard has played it more than any of us so I need your opinion on it as well. Bane is for sure a top 5 character, also DD is not a better character than him.
In the current meta it is that bad. I'm pretty sure @deg222 had it at 7-3 last time I talked with him. My opinion on flash is no worse than 6-4 but I will defer to biohazard.
 

Kyu

CHOO CHOO BANE TRAIN
In the current meta it is that bad. I'm pretty sure @deg222 had it at 7-3 last time I talked with him. My opinion on flash is no worse than 6-4 but I will defer to biohazard.
Zat I personally see as a 7-3 but I knew those numbers so I had to ask. Fuck that annoyingly attractive magician. Flash I do see as 6-4 but Bio knows it best so let's see.
 

Kyu

CHOO CHOO BANE TRAIN
Bio also Thinks Shazam Beats Bane. :3. Indy Out.
I don't think so, but I play the matchup very poorly. I play any MU vs Shazam poorly I hate that little fucker. I feel like Bane just has to play the neutral game all match, can't waste venom. Shazam does have to come in to us on a life lead and we can punish him for it fairly well.
 

Mr Aquaman

Armored Launcher
Administrator
Premium Supporter
Because it's lliterally shit. Like it's trolling up playing, not in depth matchup discussion. Like, haha, we get it, moustaches and the god of war, like we got it. But when you try to talk Ares and you got like...

"And at best if I get first hit into 50% then you cant zone me, you cant chip me without trait, and ill eat that all day, cause end ot the day if you fail to open me up im still winning and now its my turn. Ares can literally spam de if you dont have zod balls started up already."

This isn't constructive in the least, it's just upplaying cause lol Ares. My friend @4x4lo8o can't even get real honest Ares MU talk going cause you're just spamming threads with up playing that isn't conductive in the least. Maybe if every once in a while you dropped the schtick people would listen.
What's the blow up, the fact is ares can sit with a health lead vs zod that spams zod balls, which is what the thread was about, i have no idea what you are blowing up? What are iazb's doing vs ares with a health lead? I was responding to armor who stated ares is immoble and gets 7-3'd by his zoning, check the fucking thread. Second, try talking ds with 4x4 and all i got was, i cant beat hippo, its 7-3 ds. thanks. cause he has the results -_-

l o l mustache
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
Deg and PPJ both say Zat only beats Bane 6-4, @GGA Max your opinion would be appreciated. Flash I only see as a 6-4, but @RM_Biohazard has played it more than any of us so I need your opinion on it as well. Bane is for sure a top 5 character, also DD is not a better character than him.
Talk to me about that when a Doomsday doesn't make top 5 at a major and a Bane does. He's for sure better than Aquaman, MMH, Batgirl, Zod, Flash, Wonder Woman, Superman and Batman? If you say so.
 

Error

DF2+R2
Post-patch Black Adam is a shitter in the same league as Catwoman.
Most of his cross-up set ups are bills, his oki is a bill, bomb is a bill, d2, lightning, footsies, etc all bills.
 

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
Is Injustice the first fighting game to have a top five character with 2-8/3-7 matchups? I think so!

No, it can happen. You could be the best character in the game and have a terrible match. It might be the case in MK9 in fact, depending on who you see as top 5.
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
I don't think so, but I play the matchup very poorly. I play any MU vs Shazam poorly I hate that little fucker. I feel like Bane just has to play the neutral game all match, can't waste venom. Shazam does have to come in to us on a life lead and we can punish him for it fairly well.
I played Bio A lot at Summer Jam. I made him think the MU was not as bad as it was. But it still think its in Shazam's Favor. Also He can waste venom and needs to sometimes. In this MU if you get a hit it may be the only hit you get so doing as much damage as possible is a good idea. So if you have two bars slamming to level 3 and doing a bounce cancel combo is really good. Cause it gets you that damage to catch up. And then if you get the life lead i kind have to go in. The big issue is i can punish your dashing very well. And my runaway game is very strong. And WU teleport is really good. Etc. Etc. Stuff you probably heard before.
 

JDM

Noob
NW beats aquaman 6-4. Only could be a debatable 5-5 if aqua has ENOUGH interactables. Trait is a bill in that mu

Also DS beats supes 6-4
Aquaman beats NW or is a 5-5 at worst. There's no way Aquaman loses that matchup, trust me bruh. Aquaman does everything NW does but better.
 

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
Bane being top 5 is a bill. I would really like to know why some think he is

The idea is Bane players haven't completely developed all the matches against the zoners and that some of his losing matches are in fact 5-5. If that is the case then it's possible to fit him into the top 5. His MU chart is close to it now.
 
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