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Lets get down to the nitty gritty, this is about the people watching, or buying merch, this is about the america people, whom without that QB would be at Wendy's fucking up my order, bitch I said no mayo. Thank you to all the people who arent making millions, who are just here to have a good time. Who cares of Peyton Manning doesnt like that I have Cam Newton over him, or that I think the Eagles are a better team, or that Andrew Luck is a fraud. (Random examples). Shit just have a good time.
S+ Tier: Aaron Rodgers Peyton Manning
S Tier: Drew Brees Tom brady Andrew Luck
s- Tier: Phil Rivers Roethlisberger
A+ Matt Stafford(possibly) Matt Ryan Russell Wilson(not sure)
A Tier: Cam Newton Colin Kaep Tony Homo

Potential God Tier: Colin Kaep
 
Aquaman has no "hard" MUs. Maybe "mildly difficult," but Zod has worse ones, and more.

MMH has no losing MUs, and people think he has more even ones than he actually does.

Batman is a top 5 character and loses, what...1 MU? 2? Has a fantastic tool-set and I still think he goes 5-5 with Zod at worst.
Batman is better than flash, zod, aquaman, mmh, and/or batgirl???
 

IMakeItL00kC00L

Do not provoke a god
S+ Tier: Aaron Rodgers Peyton Manning
S Tier: Drew Brees Tom brady Andrew Luck
s- Tier: Phil Rivers Roethlisberger
A+ Matt Stafford(possibly) Matt Ryan Russell Wilson(not sure)
A Tier: Cam Newton Colin Kaep Tony Homo

Potential God Tier: Colin Kaep
Imo brees is S+ and stafford is S
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
No one says that you body zod. It's agreed as a 5-5 for God's sake. And equating your overheads to BA's sweep is flat out dumb. It's nowhere near as unviable. In fact, your overheads are perfectly viable. And in case you were wondering, it is absolutely realistic to think that bane can take an entire healthbar off after just one knockdown.
You're just flat-out wrong. It's not at all 5-5 if Zod can do perfect IAZB's like he should be able to and if you lose an entire healthbar off one knockdown with a backdash like that, you're still on day 1 meta. Learn to pushblock, son.
 

KingHippo

Alternative-Fact Checker
idk man i have it 6-4 flash, or maybe 6-4 hitbox flash that makes it so you can never really shoot guns at all?
Just right there you exposed the flaw when people talk the match. No one is grinding it beyond "Well, I mean I can punish guns". No one is talking Flash's neutral weaknesses or the minutia of Deathstroke's oki on Flash's just okay wakeups. Until we get past meta 1 I will not accept auto loss because of LGS punish.
 

IMakeItL00kC00L

Do not provoke a god
You're just flat-out wrong. It's not at all 5-5 if Zod can do perfect IAZB's like he should be able to and if you lose an entire healthbar off one knockdown with a backdash like that, you're still on day 1 meta. Learn to pushblock, son.
So the community is flat out wrong? Maybe you need to change your approach on the matchup, instead of bitching about the character
 
Just right there you exposed the flaw when people talk the match. No one is grinding it beyond "Well, I mean I can punish guns". No one is talking Flash's neutral weaknesses or the minutia of Deathstroke's oki on Flash's just okay wakeups. Until we get past meta 1 I will not accept auto loss because of LGS punish.
actually I have it at 6 4 and me and DJT have grinded the matchup heavily at home. Could it be 5 5? DJT agrees but I dnt. I guess the matchup will need to be grinded more, but the MU being "7 3" is BS #YEEAAPPP
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
So the community is flat out wrong? Maybe you need to change your approach on the matchup, instead of bitching about the character
"The community" isn't wrong, you are. What top Zods who can IAZB and top Batman players think those matchups are still even because Bane insta-wins on knockdown????

You need to learn how to play against Bane is what needs to happen. Nobody is "bitching" about the character. I flat out said he's one of the best big brawlers in the history of fighters and dominating on oki is his strongest point, but it's just not completely free against competent Zod/Batman players even if they have useless wakeup specials. You're just clearly not one of the competent players I'm referring to so I'm done wasting my time arguing with you.
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
Just right there you exposed the flaw when people talk the match. No one is grinding it beyond "Well, I mean I can punish guns". No one is talking Flash's neutral weaknesses or the minutia of Deathstroke's oki on Flash's just okay wakeups. Until we get past meta 1 I will not accept auto loss because of LGS punish.
well i didn't really go into much detail, but i think being able to punish guns is really crucial in teh MU. i dont get how people say flash has a neutral weakness either, he has the fast dash, long range over head and b2. his d2, and d1 are great for stuffing dash that give him 41% to 55% for trying to dash in on him, which is a lot more than other character get. you can't name me a character that can punish you for more damage for dashing in than flash. he has a great AA and great ways to approach (IE LC makes you duck and RMS makes you move + fastest dash, SP, 50/50 after a J2). i think flash has a top 5 neutral game, which is why i was able to beat really good players in tournament that already knew all my bullshit set ups. flash has an answer for everything. also flash has top 3 best wake up options in the game, he has two fully invincible wake ups. one that givees you space if you try to cross him up (if you do a f3 set up and i LC i just go full screen safely). LK can be canceled with a dash and made fully invincible also beats out command grabs and full launches for 55% with trait. SP catch you off guard when you try baiting LC for full combo. Shake is good for when a projectile or single hitting move is throw out like martain tele. don't know what flash exp you have but these are my talking points. flash IMO out footsies DS, AA him very well, and can approach DS better than DS can approach him.
 

MrSoloLobo

I have a keen eye for all things broken.
You guys are acting as if other batgirl opinions are different from sonic. They are almost identical.
 

IMakeItL00kC00L

Do not provoke a god
"The community" isn't wrong, you are. What top Zods who can IAZB and top Batman players think those matchups are still even because Bane insta-wins on knockdown????

You need to learn how to play against Bane is what needs to happen. Nobody is "bitching" about the character. I flat out said he's one of the best big brawlers in the history of fighters and dominating on oki is his strongest point, but it's just not completely free against competent Zod/Batman players even if they have useless wakeup specials. You're just clearly not one of the competent players I'm referring to so I'm done wasting my time arguing with you.
Im saying that mu is 5-5 BASED ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR MATCHUP. I find it interesting that "competent" players describe the matchup as 9-1 when bane is kept out, and 9-1 when bane gets in. But fine, whatever, continue downplaying.
 

BunLantern

Long live b13 minigun
Green Lantern loses 2-8 to Zatanna, besides Cyborg vs MMH and Lex vs Zod I'd call it the worst MU in the game.

This thread is really freeing, we should do this at least twice a year.