Freddy Krueger is Officially Hat Tier

[Bolo Yeung]

The projectile thing has been happening since before Freddy came out and it's probably related to the game's 3D hitboxes.

 

[Subby]

He also needs an unbreakable command grab.

Screw that. Give him Kitana fans! Unbreakable combos all day every day!

 

[John Grizzly]

And, in my humble opinion, they can cry me a river, build a bridge, and get the hell over it.

I'm just sayin', man.

I've already paid for Freddy so you bet your ass I'll be downloading him. I can see why die-hard MK fans would be salty about Freddy being not only in the game, but one of the better characters.

Fucking with something people are passionate about always causes issues. Especially when it makes zero sense.

I understand both sides of the fence on this issue, though. At the very least, NRS is keeping things interesting. However, if this shit is true about lots of projectiles just passing through him, that's pretty unforgivable.

 

[Bolo Yeung]

They'll fix his damage and he'll still be a good character, and you'll all still complain instead of trying to learn the match.

 

[Vilén]

See, I'm still confounded by the community response to him.

Before he was released, many posters here stated that Freddy would suck, and that they would half-ass him since he's just here for publicity and sales.
NOW, everyone's saying they purposely unbalanced him for the same reason.

Even though, as stated, Skarlet is worse, and I don't think any Cyrax players have a right to moan.

Do I think Freddy is OP? Yes.
Do I think he's as bad as Cyrax, Skarlet, or even Raiden? No.

Well, I knew Freddy was going to be good because NRS would likely feel that new players getting involved specifically for him couldn't be bothered to play a shitty character, but I thought hey'd just make a solid character like the other three DLC and that'd be the end of it, which they did give us. It never dawned on me he'd have a 61% damage wall-carry BnB for 1 bar. Or take a few percent over half your life from either option in a completely safe 50/50. Or do like 42% damage meterless from anywhere on screen off a fast starting launching string that can turn into a 50%+ damage combo if you have the meter.

I just want NRS's answer to this.

And before anybody says something retarded, I have no problem with Cyrax's legit 1 bar combos doing 50%~ damage because he has fucking nothing without meter. Krueger on the other hand, does 42% without it. Big difference.

I completely agree. He is not necessarily broken, but he is OP. His mix-up is a lot like KL where he get's no risk for it being blocked since it is as safe as it is. It just baffles me how these characters have these moves and at no point are they under any risk eve if their moves fail. Like REALLY?! The other thing about Freddy is his DF+4 how you can pretty much do it after any combo and get a safe jump in punch to continue pressure where the opponent has to block or risk being stunned again into another 50%+ combo.

His move set and mixups are completely fine. This damage he does is the only issue.

That and fireball immunity. WTF is NRS's problem? I really want to main this guy, but I'd also like it if people were willing to play against me.

They'll fix his damage and he'll still be a good character, and you'll all still complain instead of trying to learn the match.

You and everyone who takes this attitude into this thread of all threads really must shut, the, fuck, up. There's nothing at all to learn here. You guess wrong against a perfect 50/50, you lose half your life. We've all learned that, and you know what? Doesn't help the match-up at all.

 

[Bolo Yeung]

You and everyone who takes this attitude into this thread of all threads really must shut, the, fuck, up. There's nothing at all to learn here. You guess wrong against a perfect 50/50, you lose half your life. We've all learned that, and you know what? Doesn't help the match-up at all.

lmao

 

[D. R.]

My biggest gripe with the whole concept of Freddy is that they gave him all the tools to win, yet some characters are lacking there of. Like, what... the... fuck? It just intrigues me as to what the fuck is going through the programmers minds when they introduce some of these characters and their movesets.

Programmer 1: "Hey look at this! This is cool, right? But looks kinda OP."
Programmer 2: "Fuck it, add that shit!"
Programmer 1: "Sure we shouldn't test it some more?"
Programmer 2: "Fuck no. That requires a talent which we do not possess. Add it!"
Programmer 1: "Ok, I guess."
Programmer 2: "Fuck it, you know what? While you're at it, give him a teleport, combo filler and a reset option. He needs that. Yeah!"

:facepalm:

Give Noob a mobile teleport like Freddy's. He's a zoner with limited mobility, this would help! Hell, along with others:

Give Sheeva a combo filler like Freddy's.
Give Quan Chi a potential 50/50 reset like Freddy's.

I'm not sure if I'm conveying my point across, but it's a waste to give Freddy these moves when other characters could benefit more from them and thus balance the game better.

 

[Konqrr]

Paulo commented on the glitch thread about projectiles going through Freddy. There is an issue with the damage scaling that will be in the next patch. Calm down people, he will only do 98% damage instead of 100% ^_^

 

[Bolo Yeung]

Freddy does not have "all of the tools" lmao. Freddy wishes he had Noob's defensive capabilities. Elm Street will crumble under smart aggro pressure, assuming you're a smart enough player to do it properly.

 

[Subby]

Paulo commented on the glitch thread about projectiles going through Freddy. There is an issue with the damage scaling that will be in the next patch. Calm down people, he will only do 98% damage instead of 100% ^_^

They're fixing both damage and projectiles? YAY! I can play Freddy with more of a challange later when the patch hits! (If you guys haven't figured it out yet, I like playing characters that have a challenge to use them. Brings out satisfaction in me. )

 

[Vilén]

lmao

No sense in laughing dude. You can't react to or off a blocked jump in punch. You must guess, and if you guess wrong twice, round over. Three times if you had a breaker.

Unreasonable damage is unreasonable.

Unless you're laughing in agreement in which case, whatever. It's absolutely impossible to distinguish sarcasm from retardation on this forum.

Freddy does not have "all of the tools" lmao. Freddy wishes he had Noob's defensive capabilities. Elm Street will crumble under smart aggro pressure, assuming you're a smart enough player to do it properly.

This.

I'm not saying Freddy is broken, or even that he has all the tools. He's got no defense; you can totally beat Freddy. But there is no logical reason why he needs or even should have the damage he does. Way too much damage.

 

[Lyuben]

Give Noob a mobile teleport like Freddy's. He's a zoner with limited mobility, this would help! Hell, along with others:

That would be awesome. Either make his teleport able to go left or right like skydrop and stomp. Or, be really awesome and make him descent into the ground like some sort of dark liquid, like the way he walks back after winning a round or stands up after losing one.

 

[wolfe]

meh, people who bitch about him fall in two camps, people that hate freddy,a nd people that geniunely feel hes OP.

ill be maining him. the way i see it, if cyrax can have his crazy combos/resets and frametraps. why cant freddy? the only thing that looks odd to me is his xray scaling.

now as for the rest, they def gave him the bag of tricks.

a vertical stun, a unique tele, high/low zoning mixup, multiple juggle options and safe 50/50's leading into high damage.

he basically has everything needed for rushdown AND zoning...hell his zoning is almost better then noobs save for the fact that shadowtackle actually tackles, but both do more damage.

i do want to compare him slightly to cyrax. both are meterwhores when at there best. cyrax has net, krueg has the dream dust. they both have teleports albet different kinds, both have crappy wakeupgame, both do a LOT of damage. i dont know about krueg's frametraps, but cyrax has some damn good ones.

the real imbalance i see is his "completly" safe 50/50 game that leads into 40%+ combos.

so you either take away his 50/50 game, or nerf his damage.

id prefer nerfing the damage. meterless damage at least.

 

[Bolo Yeung]

No sense in laughing dude. You can't react to or off a blocked jump in punch. You must guess, and if you guess wrong twice, round over. Three times if you had a breaker.

Unreasonable damage is unreasonable.

Unless you're laughing in agreement in which case, whatever. It's absolutely impossible to distinguish sarcasm from retardation on this forum.

We all know his damage is getting patched, I already said it needed to be fixed(or rather, "it will be"). What I was laughing at was you claim to know the matchup already because you've observed that he has 50/50s. Two wrong guesses = death? Welcome to fighter gamez bro. Nobody is going to patch Urien unblockables or one touch death Makoto in 3s. How do people deal with that shit? Lean to read player tendencies and patterns, RTSD, lrn2ply in general.

 

[D. R.]

Freddy does not have "all of the tools" lmao. Freddy wishes he had Noob's defensive capabilities. Elm Street will crumble under smart aggro pressure, assuming you're a smart enough player to do it properly.

:facepalm: Ok, you know better. Of course he doesn't have all the tools! Cause, I mean, he's so lacking, right? Huge damage, fast, reaching combo starters, braindead combos, safe 50/50s, a mobile teleport, etc. Oh yes, he is definitly lacking a tool. Time to pay a visit to the home improvement department of NRS for that one. Smfh

 

[GodsLonelyman]

This is fucking ridiculous. I supported the whole Freddy thing but I'm not so sure anymore. What a cheap ass broken character. I'd rather face perfect legends Kung Lao with a gun pointed at my pinky toe, so that when I lose the match, it gets blown off ,as opposed to facing this burned joke of a character. Fucking pathetic man.

 

[Subby]

:facepalm: Ok, you know better. Of course he doesn't have all the tools! Cause, I mean, he's so lacking, right? Huge damage, fast, reaching combo starters, braindead combos, safe 50/50s, a mobile teleport, etc. Oh yes, he is definitly lacking a tool. Time to pay a visit to the home improvement department of NRS for that one. Smfh

Dont forget dem projectiles. So gud man.

This is fucking ridiculous. I supported the whole Freddy thing but I'm not so sure anymore. What a cheap ass broken character. I'd rather face perfect legends Kung Lao with a gun pointed at my pinky toe, so that If I lose the match, it gets blown off ,as opposed to facing this burned joke of a character. Fucking pathetic man.

Dude chill. They're gonna fix it.

 

[D. R.]

Or, be really awesome and make him descent into the ground like some sort of dark liquid, like the way he walks back after winning a round or stands up after losing one.

You nailed it on the head! I was thinking the exact same thing.

 

[wolfe]

the level of hate in this thread is pathetic.

protips...damage scalign issue (its getting fixed ffs) and the projectile issue (is getting fixed also)

he will do less damage and wont randomly go thru projectiles after he gets hotfixed.

but ya, krueger is so op it makes me want to burn myself.

 

[Reedoms]

I'm afraid to go online after reading this thread.

 

[Bolo Yeung]

:facepalm: Ok, you know better. Of course he doesn't have all the tools! Cause, I mean, he's so lacking, right? Huge damage, fast, reaching combo starters, braindead combos, safe 50/50s, a mobile teleport, etc. Oh yes, he is definitly lacking a tool. Time to pay a visit to the home improvement department of NRS for that one. Smfh

What would have done thirteen years ago when somebody picked V-Akuma in the arcade and proceed to assfuck you with unblockables, unfair 50/50s into damage Freddy dreams he had(lol), and guard break pressured you to death? Write a letter to Capcom that they need to patch their game because this character is strong and you can't X-ism Juni and win, or would you baller up and learn how to fight that shit? People back then baller'd up, son.

 

[Reedoms]

What would have done thirteen years ago when somebody picked V-Akuma in the arcade and proceed to assfuck you with unblockables, unfair 50/50s into damage Freddy dreams he had(lol), and guard break pressured you to death? Write a letter to Capcom that they need to patch their game because this character is strong and you can't X-ism Juni and win, or would you baller up and learn how to fight that shit? People back then baller'd up, son.

And then everyone played Akuma.

 

[Lyuben]

I seriously cannot wait for a Tom Brady or Reo type figure to come into one of these threads say something small like "hes fine" or "hes getting tweaked" or "learn to play" and shut up all the doomsayers.

 

[Theme]

Wow... I just played a few Kruegers. Hes so god damn safe.... Kung Lao worthy. His lowhat string *or low claw I should say* is just like Kung Lao's, safe and builds meter... wtf. I cant even punish it with Reptiles Dash...

 

[kabelfritz]

I'm afraid to go online after reading this thread.

nightmare on psn