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General/Other - Pyromancer Why Tanya has potential BEST zoning in new Meta of the game.

RevetLeafing

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
PLAYING TO WIN said:
The zoning is too predictable. One of the most important zoning characteristics is unpredictability. Tanya lacks that. Something like Sinestro's trait, predators disc, balanced Kenshi Fury. In a game where the mobility to insanely high it is very hard to zone.

Of course there are some matchups in this game where zoning is relevant but there is no traditional zoner that is top tier in MKX.
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How is it predictable? We play quite a lot and I never see you react to her 7 different arks she can do with them.
 
TamedLizard

TamedLizard

Buff George
Immortal said:
Why would anybody want to close this thread? It's great. :D It's in pair with that Tweedy meltdown in that @EMPEROR_OF_OUTWORLD thread few months back (forgot title).
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That thread was amazing. So much of this one is just pure cringe. Also...

Dankster Morgan said:
I'm 17, you're just a walking cancer stick who makes no efforts to be any different. Just because you're a kid and everyone expects you to be an idiot doesn't mean you need to. I could give less of a fuck about being the bigger person to someone who can't read, won't accept other opinions because "I'm 16 lol I don't need to be an adult", and has a fetish for a MK character to the point of getting bent when someone says she is bad.
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PLAYING TO WIN

Champion
RevetLeafing said:
How is it predictable? We play quite a lot and I never see you react to her 7 different arks she can do with them.
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I can't even remember the last time we played my man. Its predictable. Like @General M2Dave said. Im not saying it isn't good though but not the best zoning in this version of the game. Her mobility is the only reason she can zone. Vs low mobility characters it is decent.

Considering all the characters tools and traditional projectiles the best ones in this version are: (in no order) HQT, necro/BS, kitana, reptile, cybernetic and sektor. Pretty Lady has extremely good projectiles but lacks any tools to compliment them. I understand zoning. Its my strongest attribute as a player and reasons I did so well in SF4 and injustice. It is also my Achilles heel as zoning is extremely weak in a game with a run button and crazy mobility.
 
YoloRoll1stHit

YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
I said it again
counterzoners can deal with Tanya's fireball ON REACTION. That's the most important thing for a good zoner. Quan, HQT, necro/BS, Kitana... all have unreactable projectiles.
 
RevetLeafing

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
PLAYING TO WIN said:
I can't even remember the last time we played my man. Its predictable. Like @General M2Dave said. Im not saying it isn't good though but not the best zoning in this version of the game. Her mobility is the only reason she can zone. Vs low mobility characters it is decent.

Considering all the characters tools and traditional projectiles the best ones in this version are: (in no order) HQT, necro/BS, kitana, reptile, cybernetic and sektor. Pretty Lady has extremely good projectiles but lacks any tools to compliment them. I understand zoning. Its my strongest attribute as a player and reasons I did so well in SF4 and injustice. It is also my Achilles heel as zoning is extremely weak in a game with a run button and crazy mobility.
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I can understand what you're saying, but I don't reach the same conclusion, I still think Tanya has the best zoning in the game and the prime reason is Because of her mobility, you can;t just say "only " because of her mobility when it's a prime factor
 
RevetLeafing

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
YoloRoll1stHit said:
I said it again
counterzoners can deal with Tanya's fireball ON REACTION. That's the most important thing for a good zoner. Quan, HQT, necro/BS, Kitana... all have unreactable projectiles.
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So let's say I'm choosing pyromanvcer, and i'm playing vs a quan chi (sorcerer), if I throw a fireball, i'm guessing you're going to try to stomp.. (lol), so if it's not frame perfect and the stomp misses, aren't you in trouble? Pyros dust hurts now, along with fireballs, I think you'll have to be smarter than to just wait for Tanya to throw a fireball, and be careful, some Tanya's are very unreactable, and even if pyro doesn;t want to stay back, she can get in, and once she does, it's hard to shaker her off, because her teleports can lead her right back to you, everyone is sleeping on instant air tele jump 2
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Tweedy said:
Revet does so many things, that I've seen work on Sonic, Scar, Dragon, that the Tanya community on here will swear up and down aren't real.

Like run cancelling F3 into B3, then letting the F3 rip.

Maybe I have Bobby Hill reactions, but I've played Revet a ton, and I can't react to or fuzzy that shit lol.

Not only are you playing Revet who is a very good player, you're playing a version of a character that you've been told by this downplaying community, does not exist. There's no such thing as fuzzying that mix up in real life.

That's why I hate all of the Cyrax and CSZ downplaying. Cyrax has real dirt, that is being discovered slowly but surely. Am I supposed to get hit by that and be like "well madeofmetal told me that Cyrax has nothing so I just suck"?

Cyber Sub Zero is impossible to zone, has great mobility, mix ups, can make his mix ups safe and launching with a bar, is one of the best answers to Ermac, etc. His HTB aren't anywhere close to guaranteed so he sucks? Please breh please.
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I've recently seen the light myself and I think CSZ is pretty crazy.
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
PLAYING TO WIN said:
I can't even remember the last time we played my man. Its predictable. Like @General M2Dave said. Im not saying it isn't good though but not the best zoning in this version of the game. Her mobility is the only reason she can zone. Vs low mobility characters it is decent.

Considering all the characters tools and traditional projectiles the best ones in this version are: (in no order) HQT, necro/BS, kitana, reptile, cybernetic and sektor. Pretty Lady has extremely good projectiles but lacks any tools to compliment them. I understand zoning. Its my strongest attribute as a player and reasons I did so well in SF4 and injustice. It is also my Achilles heel as zoning is extremely weak in a game with a run button and crazy mobility.
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Summoner Quan isn't in the conversation? Damn.
 
Pig Of The Hut

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I just played revet and idc what anyone says he's the real deal and every other pyro other than sonic is free compared to him.

Lost 5-6 possessed vs pyro and then had to go to bed but I just wanna chime in and say id start listening to revet about the seriousness of pyro. That MVC3 character is super frustrating
 
anTi_air_chrisT

anTi_air_chrisT

Noob
PLAYING TO WIN said:
I can't even remember the last time we played my man. Its predictable. Like @General M2Dave said. Im not saying it isn't good though but not the best zoning in this version of the game. Her mobility is the only reason she can zone. Vs low mobility characters it is decent.

Considering all the characters tools and traditional projectiles the best ones in this version are: (in no order) HQT, necro/BS, kitana, reptile, cybernetic and sektor. Pretty Lady has extremely good projectiles but lacks any tools to compliment them. I understand zoning. Its my strongest attribute as a player and reasons I did so well in SF4 and injustice. It is also my Achilles heel as zoning is extremely weak in a game with a run button and crazy mobility.
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Who did you play in SF4? And did you consider pre-patch Reptile a zoner?
 
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