Who deserves to be in top 10?

[Peckapowa]

I think WoWo handles Martian fine, and I'd gladly show you that offline. Unfortunately all we have is online and I'll play you there if you like but it's going to be laggy...

i'll play any day, i'd like to demonstrate how i zone in that matchup which could possibly show you some things you aren't used to.

 

[OG Mannimal]

I want everyone who voted for Raven to apologize

 

[Youphemism]

i'll play any day, i'd like to demonstrate how i zone in that matchup which could possibly show you some things you aren't used to.

Cool feel free to add me, we'll play at some point

 

[Skate Bravo]

Batman shouldn't even be questioned. He's top 10. So its either WW or DD.

 

[M2Dave]

#10 Deathstroke

• Solid counter zoning/zoning

Solid?

Deathstroke's zoning is average at best.

Deathstroke is BETTER than Batman. You can't say batman without deathstroke.

No one has said this yet?

No, because no one is a misinformed fool like you.

Stop falling for King's downplaying. Deathstroke does not have 1/10th of the success that Batman has had in tournaments.

 

[Amplified$hotz]

Solid?

Deathstroke's zoning is average at best.



No, because no one is a misinformed fool like you.

Stop falling for King's downplaying. Deathstroke does not have 1/10th of the success that Batman has had in tournaments.

The best deathstroke players in MIT and King hippo have done well. I'm not sure if slips still goes to majors. I'm also sure that Arma and King could place top 8 consistently with Deathstroke if they really wanted to. Plus he has no 3-7 match ups.

 

[Flagg]

wow! Since when were batman and wonder tranny not top ten? Lmao.
I must be seriously out of the loop.
Enjoy your ignorance.

Because most pros will say their main is not good so they can get props for placing well. Even ego-maniacs need positive re-enforcement

 

[DreadKnight1]

Why is black adam so underrated? He's still a great character who does good against everyone

 

[Youphemism]

Why is black adam so underrated? He's still a great character who does good against everyone

@Error
@Clark Luthor
@MidTierHarley

 

[Clark L.]

@Error
@Clark Luthor
@MidTierHarley

As much as I love these, error is the official black adam down player, so this is his jurisdiction

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

Solid?

Deathstroke's zoning is average at best.



No, because no one is a misinformed fool like you.

Stop falling for King's downplaying. Deathstroke does not have 1/10th of the success that Batman has had in tournaments.

I guess green arrow is top 10 cuz of chris gs results right? illogical #YEEEAAPPP. The real issue is we only get about 2 yrs for our games where everyone goes hard, so ppl get set in stone on who is this and who it that. Realistically speaking, 2 yrs is way too little for a fighting game lmao. Also I feel lots of ppl dnt know how to fight batman properly as well, ppl need to check out DJT, 16 Bit, Jupiter, and etc. and see how to play vs batman. #YEEAAAPP

 

[TheFinestBlakychan]

I guess green arrow is top 10 cuz of chris gs results right? illogical #YEEEAAPPP. The real issue is we only get about 2 yrs for our games where everyone goes hard, so ppl get set in stone on who is this and who it that. Realistically speaking, 2 yrs is way too little for a fighting game lmao. Also I feel lots of ppl dnt know how to fight batman properly as well, ppl need to check out DJT, 16 Bit, Jupiter, and etc. and see how to play vs batman. #YEEAAAPP

batman= holding down to block and watching for f3 and respecting options

 

[coolwhip]

W0nder Woman and Doomsday. Though I'm quite tempted to say Deathstroke.

 

[coolwhip]

I agree WW has good tools, and I lost to WW at EVO. But I'm not convinced she is better than Batman and Doomsday right now.

I think she has less holes than Batman. I guess the obvious thing to point out is that Batman has better zoning, and that's fair, but she does better in the footsie game, has better range on her normals, 50/50's, better pressure (pretty much every Batman string has holes), frame traps for days, better wake-ups, a better corner game and a better oki game. I also think she's better defensively and has a better anti air. Batman is way too reliant on his trait by comparison too.

I'm actually in the clan that thinks WoWo is underrated. Looking at her, while she's "honest" in the sense that she just plays the game and doesn't have pure bullshit or an overpowered tool that you have to respect, she's extremely well-rounded (which is generally the argument in favor of Batman), only less flawed. I say she's a solid lower half of the top 10 character who can compete with most of the cast.

 

[coolwhip]

Solid?

Deathstroke's zoning is average at best.



No, because no one is a misinformed fool like you.

Stop falling for King's downplaying. Deathstroke does not have 1/10th of the success that Batman has had in tournaments.

Every top player who picked Deathstroke has done well with him (Slips, Hippo, MIT). He just doesn't have the same representation as Batman, who is/was played by King, REO, Arma, PL, etc... at various points in the game's life.

 

[zerosebaz]

Top 10 solidified or not, at least we can now say there is some consensus over the top 12.

 

[Youphemism]

I think she has less holes than Batman. I guess the obvious thing to point out is that Batman has better zoning, and that's fair, but she does better in the footsie game, has better range on her normals, 50/50's, better pressure (pretty much every Batman string has holes), frame traps for days, better wake-ups, a better corner game and a better oki game. I also think she's better defensively and has a better anti air. Batman is way too reliant on his trait by comparison too.

I'm actually in the clan that thinks WoWo is underrated. Looking at her, while she's "honest" in the sense that she just plays the game and doesn't have pure bullshit or an overpowered tool that you have to respect, she's extremely well-rounded (which is generally the argument in favor of Batman), only less flawed. I say she's a solid lower half of the top 10 character who can compete with most of the cast.

I agree, but the whole "every Batman string has holes in it" thing applies to WoWo too. Everything Wonder Woman does except for b1 into d1, or b11 into d1 has an interruptable gap in it.

 

[TKB]

Solid?

Deathstroke's zoning is average at best.



No, because no one is a misinformed fool like you.

Stop falling for King's downplaying. Deathstroke does not have 1/10th of the success that Batman has had in tournaments.

Your delightful trolling is always welcome Dave.

 

[TKB]

I agree, but the whole "every Batman string has holes in it" thing applies to WoWo too. Everything Wonder Woman does except for b1 into d1, or b11 into d1 has an interruptable gap in it.

You're the resident batgirl downplayer. Leave the Wonder Woman downplaying to Hysteria.

 

[Youphemism]

You're the resident batgirl downplayer. Leave the Wonder Woman downplaying to Hysteria.

Lol I didn't say "but she's good" so it's not downplaying oh but I stated facts about my character, oh well guess I'm still a downplayer!

 

[GGA Max]

I think she has less holes than Batman. I guess the obvious thing to point out is that Batman has better zoning, and that's fair, but she does better in the footsie game, has better range on her normals, 50/50's, better pressure (pretty much every Batman string has holes), frame traps for days, better wake-ups, a better corner game and a better oki game. I also think she's better defensively and has a better anti air. Batman is way too reliant on his trait by comparison too.

I'm actually in the clan that thinks WoWo is underrated. Looking at her, while she's "honest" in the sense that she just plays the game and doesn't have pure bullshit or an overpowered tool that you have to respect, she's extremely well-rounded (which is generally the argument in favor of Batman), only less flawed. I say she's a solid lower half of the top 10 character who can compete with most of the cast.

Yeah man, I don't play either character, it could be that the WW players are underperforming, and she's better than BM. But, uh, as a Bane player and someone who sees BM in way more top 8's, my perspective shows BM as better.

She's good on paper, but there must be something wrong with going from theory->practice at majors. Or maybe the right player hasn't picked her up or the right players are not traveling enough. I think it might be due to her lack of zoning, but its just a theory, a game theory.

 

[coolwhip]

Yeah man, I don't play either character, it could be that the WW players are underperforming, and she's better than BM. But, uh, as a Bane player and someone who sees BM in way more top 8's, my perspective shows BM as better.

She's good on paper, but there must be something wrong with going from theory->practice at majors. Or maybe the right player hasn't picked her up or the right players are not traveling enough. I think it might be due to her lack of zoning, but its just a theory, a game theory.

Yeah there's something to be said for Batman's results. I think part of it is the fact that he doesn't have any handicap match-ups other than Aquaman. And like I said, a bunch of great players have played him.

For Wonder Woman, I think most find her too bland to pick her up as a main (can't fault them), and if you don't care if a character is "cool" to pick them up and you just one someone who's good, well then, there are a bunch of better characters to play, hence the lack of representation. Nevertheless, I'd say Flipinoman has done quite well with her. But yeah, given her tools, she should be doing better.

I actually don't think we'll ever find out how good she is/isn't. At least not with tournament results.

 

[GGA Max]

I actually don't think we'll ever find out how good she is/isn't. At least not with tournament results.

I agree, it's too bad that this game is supposedly going to die in 6 months. I hope we find out stuff like this before mkx.

 

[@MylesWright_]

I went with Doomsday and Deathstroke. I was led to believe that Killer Frost was better then all of these characters and in fact potentially Top 5.. LOL

 

[Error]

Why is black adam so underrated? He's still a great character who does good against everyone

His lame game isn't good anymore, costly mix-ups, no air control, people finally learned to blow up his wake-ups. Hard MUs against a fair amount of top 8.