Ok, so you didn't watch it, and you've never looked at the document yourself.
I did look at out when it first came out. I did watch the video as well. They are idiots. I dont really see any point in explaining, it won't change shrines mind. Its sad, even in this day and age people will believe whatever fairy tails they want logic ands science be dammed.
You keep saying "they," but there is only one person talking in that video.
I was gonna reply, but I want you to be right in every way. I just want the videos to be released, and a real investigation to happen. I want pictures of Bin Laden's corpse because those are definitely not too gruesome if a mans face was eaten off and shown to the world.
As far as Osama's pic goes, I posted this earlier in the thread for MKF and thought this was a VERY good article about why they shouldn't be released, I'd suggest taking a few minutes to read it, it's not very long: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/dont-release-the-photos.html . One of the points made is that the Birth Certificate proved that pictures mean nothing to conspiracy theorists, so why would this be any different?
That depiction really doesn't sound that gruesome. I've seen the Daniel Pearl beheading video and that was fucked up...and I'm sure millions of people googled that. Everyone in the world has seen 9/11 footage of people leaping from the towers onto the pavement to avoid being burned to death. Millions of people have googled 'Miami Zombie' and have seen 75% of Ronald Poppo's face chewed off. They've also seen the naked man attacking him for 18 minutes from a security camera. I think the public could handle it.
Argue points, dont storm in and call people wrong. Conspiracy theorists question and do what is asked of you as a citizen. You are supposed to question. I for one do not see the relevance of Obama's birthplace and why people are debating over it. If anyone cares to explain that would be great. But, I would like the 9/11 questions and demands to be brought to attention of the government and answered.
It's not about how graphic the picture is, it's about how we let it define our victory.
I do agree with you there.
I completely see your point, but the minute I see that plane hitting the Pentagon, you dont know how happy (in a bad way) I will be. Look at the official video, how the fuck does anyone justify that as being the plane, seriously. 5 frames a second?!?! Are kidding me? I re-call seeing a photo of the side that was hit with a security cam about 20 feet away from the hole just sitting there untouched. What about all the confiscated cams of hotels and stores surrounding the Pentagon...
What defines a victory... Win the hockey season in the NHL, get a Stanley Cup..
Have you ever seen a controlled demolition before? It looks nothing like what happened to WTC 7.
Oh really, it was pulled but looked nothing like a controlled demolition. And they just set up some explosives in a few hours and just took it down. Your logic is impeccable.
This. This right here.
The myth of "no remains" found at the Pentagon only came from picked-and-chosen pictures by truthers. Many remnants from the plane were found at the crash site (as well as all the bodies that were recovered), just not all were photographed. The media had no reason to walk around and take a picture of every piece of debris to satisfy conspiracy theorists who don't exist yet. Personally, I put my faith in the blatantly obvious fact that SO MANY people saw the plane hit or fly towards the pentagon in broad daylight. When just a few people say they saw something differently, any trustworthy scientist would say they were probably mistaken and consider them outliers.
Because they don't feel the need to keep waste just to satisfy fringe conspiracy groups. People don't realize how much of a favor the Obama administration did by actually trying to dispel a conspiracy theory. Most people wouldn't even bother to care.
No one *knows* what happened inside Flight 93. But I find it really hard to believe that a plane could get shot down without anyone hearing that or noticing significant plane damage upon its descent. By the way, the 6-mile radius idea is a pure myth. That came from absolutely nowhere lol. The furthest debris found was just over a mile away, and that was light debris like paper.
Why is there a perfect circle punch out at the first ring of the Pentagon aligned with the entry hole?
A perfect circle? What are you even talking about? Considering the momentum of the plane when it was hitting the pentagon, it makes sense that the wings were sheared off (as the official story tells) and went into the hole behind the plane. Why, if it were anything else, were plane parts found at the pentagon?
So I guess using a demolition term such as "pull it" isnt relevant then? And clearly hearing an explosion a few seconds before its collapse doesnt matter either? What about BBC reporting the building collapsed 10 minutes prior as they report with the building in clear site.
