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What is it that makes Sonicfox so good??

Well hard to say cuz if you (and i) lack the amount of Knowledge to play at his level we also can´t see what he does and what not ^^ Dunning Krueger Effect "cough"
 
Not a lot in my opinion. From what I've seen, him winning [in MK11] is a combination of char. choice, pious adherence to high-percentage "BnB's", and the combination of the opponents' lack of commensurate ability. The most you could reasonably say is that SF has a good nose for sniffing out cheap characters, and that his focus on spamming what will (probability-wise) gain him advantage, is more honed than that of most other NRS game players'.

The fact is, NRS games are not the vehicles for assessing the fighting game skill of a player -- they're far too rote, rigid, predictive and match-up centric, to give an accurate indication. The fact SF isn't known for playing much beyond NRS's rock 'em sock 'em offerings, speaks to thus widely held assertion.
 

StormGoddess

Your mind tricks won't harm me!!!
Not a lot in my opinion. From what I've seen, him winning [in MK11] is a combination of char. choice, pious adherence to high-percentage "BnB's", and the combination of the opponents' lack of commensurate ability. The most you could reasonably say is that SF has a good nose for sniffing out cheap characters, and that his focus on spamming what will (probability-wise) gain him advantage, is more honed than that of most other NRS game players'.

The fact is, NRS games are not the vehicles for assessing the fighting game skill of a player -- they're far too rote, rigid, predictive and match-up centric, to give an accurate indication. The fact SF isn't known for playing much beyond NRS's rock 'em sock 'em offerings, speaks to thus widely held assertion.
you must have missed all the other games that Sonics has dominated.
DBFZ, skullgirls,DOA, SoulCalibur, UNIST ect. so nrs games aside- what is your take on his skills in those games?
 
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REYTHEGREAT

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you must have missed all the other games that Sonics has dominated.
DBFZ, skullgirls,DOA, SoulCalibur, UNIST ect. so nrs games aside- what is your take on his skills in those games?
GO1 dominates DBFZ currently, Sonic used to dominate Skullgirls back in the day when it was popular and I think that was one of the games that he first picked up. Not sure if that game still getting played at a mass level. I believe he dropped Soul Calibur. He just picked up Unist and got 13th place. While he is very good at fighting games, I believe the only game he is dominating consistently is MK.
 

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
Rock solid mental game.
In-depth Knowledge of the game.
Reads.
Execution to capitalise on the read.
Confidence to implement it all.
 

CrimsonShadow

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1) His reads on what other players will do are insane

2) His adaptation is probably the best we’ve ever seen

3) He can hold and organize large volumes of information in his head, which means he learns how the entire cast works when most people are just learning a couple of characters and a few MUs.

4) He has great reactions

5) He is a great tournament player, as he is very astute at picking up on his opponent’s weaknesses and capitalizing on them — be that via a character pick or otherwise

6) He has a high level of preparedness due to labbing things between tournaments. Sonic is probably one of the best lab monsters we have.

7) His strong interest in other fighting games has given him a wider variety of techniques and approaches than most

8) He absolutely loves these games, with a passion, and it shows.
 
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StormGoddess

Your mind tricks won't harm me!!!
GO1 dominates DBFZ currently, Sonic used to dominate Skullgirls back in the day when it was popular and I think that was one of the games that he first picked up. Not sure if that game still getting played at a mass level. I believe he dropped Soul Calibur. He just picked up Unist and got 13th place. While he is very good at fighting games, I believe the only game he is dominating consistently is MK.
i think you may have missed the point, of course he isnt dominating every game at the same time but when he focuses on a game his skills transfers to non NRS games. So the NRS game meme is a non issue. Sonic is still the EVO DBFZ champ BTW at least until next evo.
 
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Eldriken

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Not a lot in my opinion. From what I've seen, him winning [in MK11] is a combination of char. choice, pious adherence to high-percentage "BnB's", and the combination of the opponents' lack of commensurate ability. The most you could reasonably say is that SF has a good nose for sniffing out cheap characters, and that his focus on spamming what will (probability-wise) gain him advantage, is more honed than that of most other NRS game players'.

The fact is, NRS games are not the vehicles for assessing the fighting game skill of a player -- they're far too rote, rigid, predictive and match-up centric, to give an accurate indication. The fact SF isn't known for playing much beyond NRS's rock 'em sock 'em offerings, speaks to thus widely held assertion.
Wow. You're so wrong that it's unbelievable. Are you purposely talking out of your ass?
 

wsj515

This is my billionth life cycle.
I want to say watching Sajam breakdown sonic gameplay is pretty nuts. typically if sonic is put into an unfavorable situation ONCE he will immediately try a counter the next time he sees it. It's consistent as hell, and then once he conditions how he will punish that situation hel switch it up and capitalize if you get baited.
People don't talk about/appreciate Sajam's MK11 content nearly enough. He's easily been one of the best and most consistent content creators for us.
 
Not a lot in my opinion. From what I've seen, him winning [in MK11] is a combination of char. choice, pious adherence to high-percentage "BnB's", and the combination of the opponents' lack of commensurate ability. The most you could reasonably say is that SF has a good nose for sniffing out cheap characters, and that his focus on spamming what will (probability-wise) gain him advantage, is more honed than that of most other NRS game players'.

The fact is, NRS games are not the vehicles for assessing the fighting game skill of a player -- they're far too rote, rigid, predictive and match-up centric, to give an accurate indication. The fact SF isn't known for playing much beyond NRS's rock 'em sock 'em offerings, speaks to thus widely held assertion.
Today on TYM: Newly registered pseudo-intellectuals calling Sonic Fox bad
 

methademic

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Good decision making, good reactions, excellent adaptation skills, and he puts in the work, both in the lab and grinding sets. No secret formula my dudes.
 

Marlow

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I think the thing that's so impressive is how quickly he's able to figure out character optimization for multiple characters and effortlessly switch between them. And then apply that to character matchups.
 
Wow. You're so wrong that it's unbelievable. Are you purposely talking out of your ass?
I second this. lol
Back to the topic: one of reason is that Sonic was taught fighting game very early in his life by his family. Developing your skills from very young age will help you a lot, make you far more skilled that people who start to learn at older age. Playing music instrument is also another example for this
 

OzzFoxx

Hardcore gaming poser.
One thing I had never noticed before about him (only realized it at Summit) is how tiltproof and comeback-immune he seems to be. He seems a lot more resistant than the average competitive player to throwing rounds/games away because of pressure.
Most players forget their game when they are “close out the round” mode. Sonic being near-death is nearly advantageous for him, he surely recognizes the opportunity when his opponents abandon the tactics that got them ahead in attempt to get that last bit of health. Especially w last breath now, the round is a lot farther from ending than it seems.
 

OzzFoxx

Hardcore gaming poser.
Not a lot in my opinion. From what I've seen, him winning [in MK11] is a combination of char. choice, pious adherence to high-percentage "BnB's", and the combination of the opponents' lack of commensurate ability. The most you could reasonably say is that SF has a good nose for sniffing out cheap characters, and that his focus on spamming what will (probability-wise) gain him advantage, is more honed than that of most other NRS game players'.

The fact is, NRS games are not the vehicles for assessing the fighting game skill of a player -- they're far too rote, rigid, predictive and match-up centric, to give an accurate indication. The fact SF isn't known for playing much beyond NRS's rock 'em sock 'em offerings, speaks to thus widely held assertion.
What are you talking about? Sonic has proven his talent in MANY games beyond NRS; SkullGirls, MVCi, DBFZ, he’ll even SF for a bit. And if he is cheap, which he’s not, it would be the same tactics that countless other players have tried and failed to win with. The guy deserves every bit of praise. He’s won huge tournaments with bottom tier characters (joker/Batman matchups), in fact he’s made countless bottom tier chars top tier chars (Kitana, anyone?). He blows away character specialists with their own characters (Tweedy/Geras). I’m curious who in the NRS scene impresses you if not Sonic.
 

LawAbidingCitizen

Bomb Setups & Ball Rolls(Mileena/Cyrax)
There's one thing I've noticed that makes SonicFox beatable. Or his greatest weakness.

SonicFox can not control the pace of a fight or keep the momentum in check (to his favor)

NinjaKiller, Tweedy, GGADizzy, and a few more players I can name drop... Have always had the momentum and pace in their favor when up against SonicFox.
They had the momentum at the start but his footsie and neutral is deceiving giving the illusion you are good to make that guess but Sonic plays best in those skirmishes that determine the winner of neutral and from what I see is he reacts much faster than them so he can clutch it no matter how far behind he gets.