Horrid normals? Are you serious? He has some of the best in the game! What hell do you think Jax's pressure is that he gets for free lol? It's all off high's don't be ridiculous
Yes, a b2 that is negative on block and never catches good players because they know that his b3 is nothing to fear unless he's up close, its also negative on hit. Once again, he needs meter to be more so a threat. Compared to the rest of thec cast, yes Quans normals are child's play. His njp and jip are good though. We agree on that.
What is so great about Quans normals? His b2 is negative both on hit and block. Yes, it has exceptional range but high level players never get caught by it unless you're up close so the b3 has to be feared as well. They all are mostly highs and have slow start up. Which is why I said that he is too meter dependent. Meter is the only way he can pressure. If his normals were so good then he would be able to compete up close when getting pressured. Instead he's forced block for 20sec at a time and pray that his opponent screws up. His fastest poke is 6f but on +3 on hit so nobody respects it. Did I miss anything? @YOMI FOREVER KING
It's full reach instead of advancing, it is a big wall of "fuck you, half your life" that catches anyone trying to get it on you from like midscreen, one of the longest range normals in the game outside of KJ and Predator, both of whom it outspeeds by miles (15f) and is also an overhead
Horrid may be a bit much lol allow me to rephrase that. His normals are moderate, not great. I main Quan and that's how I personally feel. I've played King, MichaelAngelo and Sacky and I stand by my opinion. Yes the b2 is a good footsie tool, but its very situational. Like I keep saying, Quan is too meter dependent. No meter, and the b2 has less value because of its crappy frame data. His jip and njp are great, we agree on that, but most of his normals have slow start up and are negative. Jax has great normals, Cassie has great normals etc. That's just my opinion man.
Medicore? Are those your words or mine? All I'm saying is that without meter it isn't as good, but hey to each is own brother.
Are you talking about the fact that at max range only regular rune connects instead of the usual close range rune? Or something else
He'll still have a god like B3. It's a little less range than a D4 not Predator's D4. But, that's none of my business...
Actually neither hit... Do you main Quan
I love how it's "Do you even main Quan??" as though it suddenly changes the facts of the matter, or as though Quan mains are known for their ability to be impartial.
Take a pixel of a step farther and a pixel of a step back you'll wiff both.
No you won't lol, if you connect that B2 any further back the Rune will still connect, in fact the rune will be hitting even more squarely on the hitbox. Jump in the lab now and test your theories friend, because they are well mislead. If they are not, feel free to put up a video proving otherwise
I made a video proving you otherwise, I think. There has always been a gap in the rune distances that not even pro players seem to take advantage of. It's very hard to do granted.
i know that there is a range in between close and maximum where the runes where both will whiff, I thought everyone knows that the runes have a gap in there space control. I didnt say anything about that at any stage. Here's what I've been talking about so far
I appreciate the time you took to make a video, but if you aren't showing how max range B2 whiffs into regular rune, then you aren't clearing up any misinformation other than your own, as you specifically said it didn't.
That absolute max range is not the optimal range that you would use B2. It's actually very hard to get that absolute max range. I also placed in the description you can only convert off of it with another bar of meter with trance or ground bursts. I appreciate you not raging and yes you are technically right it still doesn't change the argument of you can't get anything meaningful off of a B2 that hits that far away and far too often what ends up happening is Quan damage gets skimmed off the top because one of the regular runes misses but the second iteration of rune didn't. The other thing that happens is when you are that far away most knowledgeable players will just block high and wait for Quan to jump in or B2. Also if you get hit by an almost midscreen B2; Quan caught you sleeping at the wheel.
I didn't say converting off B2 at max range is consistent or even practical. And if you were to ask me if it was instead of deciding my opinion for me, I would say it is not at all.
You have been defending the position that is stating that B2 is as good as people think it is along with saying downplay statements about how better than average B2 really is. This all implied in my mind that you thought connecting a max range B2 was how B2 is one of the reasons B2 is so good. You never stated what I mentioned specifically but what STRYKIE's tongue in cheek statement was saying was that B2 is not as good as most might think and this is one of the many reasons why.
