yep back when bat was Free and mixups to loop was free and there was no difficulty doing B2 or combos, now things got a little tight and you have to use combos and HKD's to get bat out like the rest of the normal cast every left Quan. and your right, They are all Tier Whores, that flock to the Best character, and bitch about the other characters so they can win. Nerf these characters o my 1 OP character can win no matter who i play. Its getting dumb
Ive started to pick up Quan, recently, Summoner and Scorceror and Warlock are very solid characters. Summoner though, maybe a little hard to get some links other than that, has Safe 50/50's at least wiith rune. Great Zoning. And nice Damage, really only lacks a good Wakeup, but really he has plenty of other options, and good tools to keep that from happening.
And Damn still has a good HTB with Meter, i really don't see why anyone said he was garbage after patch. i mean yeah his Dumb as fuck Braindead Loop a 6 year old could do is gone. and his free bat is gone. but he is very Viable and has to be top tier at least A tier or above. better than most the characters i use.