Question Ungrab-able frames?

[PND i2 Gaug3]

colt hecterrific can something be done about this or do we have to find ways around it?

 

[Gruff757]

lets not forget his other moves folks. just food for thought

 

[Asodimazze]

Batman Unthrowable Frames

Normals

11[3]
12[2]
12[3]
b11[2]
b11[3]
22[3] Only for a few frames
f2[3] Batman is clearly jumping so no complain here

Specials

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Batarang : Batarangs beat WC armor if you hit Batman on startup

 

[Mikemetroid]

so what youre tryin to tell me is I can't just randomly throw out WC?

Damn need a new character

 

[Asodimazze]

Green Lantern Unthrowable Frames

Normals

12[3]
B1[2]
2[2]3[4]
F2[d1]3
[B233] WCC whiffs if it collides in the same moment GL B2, 2, or 3 hits
[3] Only on a few frames

All his specials are throwable

 

[Asodimazze]

so what youre tryin to tell me is I can't just randomly throw out WC?

Damn need a new character

No...just trying to tell you that even if you perfectly calculate your WC it might still whiff, so pay attention.

 

[Mikemetroid]

No...just trying to tell you that even if you perfectly calculate your WC it might still whiff, so pay attention.

no one really carefully calculates a WC anymore as a starter.

I honestly only use WC as an ender to any one of my blocked strings.

 

[Asodimazze]

no one really carefully calculates a WC anymore as a starter.

I honestly only use WC as an ender to any one of my blocked strings.

lol that might be your style, and imho is questionable but WC remains a great tool to break pressure.
It shouldn't whiff randomly

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Black Adam really fucks up Grundy's WC lol

Trait is unthrowable during activation.
b2[3]
1[3] - If both hits connect on the WC armor, you get a free throw and it counts the hits before for 20%
[f2] is hard to time, very few unthrowable frames
11[2]
11[3]
11~[4] and you have enough time to get full combo.

Lightning Storm and MB Lightning Strike also have throw immune frames. And Lightning Cage is airborne.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Not really...because unfortunately many of the unthrowable strings are also special cancellable, and the special will likely hit Grundy before he can cancel WC into anything.

For example, Superman F23xxlowscoop always beats Grundy WCC into anything

Right.

I honestly have zero problem with the mechanic of how the throw immune moves work. I can only really count a few times where it legit made me lose the match where I whiffed and wasn't expecting it to.

I know you don't agree with the throw immune properties, and i don't either. I still think getting in with all the zoning and Grundy not being able to dodge ANY intractables is a big deal.

I like the list though, but i typically just assume that all strings have one move where you can't throw, hence I tend to cancel it when i'm getting hit.

Good list though. Much appreciated.