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UltimateMK "Combined" Tier List Discussion

Shock

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Administrator
Three posts removed. Please read the first post in the thread. I PM anyone where there is an issue.
 
Kabal
H smoke
Ermac
Kung Lao
Nightwolf
Reptile
Kano
Robo Smoke
Stryker
Sonya
Kitana
Jax
Scorpion
U.Sub
Mileena
Liu Kang
Cyrax
Classic Sub
Jade
Sheeva
Sektor
 
XBL

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Ermac
5. Kano
6. Reptile
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Stryker
13. Kitana
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Liu Kang
17. Jade
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Mileena
21. Cyrax
22. Sheeva
23. Shang Tsung
 

Lars

Noob
XBL

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Ermac
6. Reptile
7. Nightwolf
8. Robot Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Sonya
11. Jax
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Unmasked Sub-Zero
15. Scorpion
16. Jade
17. Lui Kang
18. Sektor
19. Cyrax
20. Shang Tsung
21. Classic Sub-Zero
22. Mileena
23. Sheeva
 

Shock

Administrator
Administrator
Still need more lists. Please inform other members who have not posts to throw their lists up.
 

MKK hanzo

Moderator
Premium Supporter
Arc:

1. Human Smoke
2. Kabal
3. Ermac
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Nightwolf
7. R. Smoke
8. Sindel
9. Kitana
10. Sonya
11. Jax
12. Mileena
13. Jade
14. Scorpion
15. Kung Lao
16. U. Sub - Zero
17. Liu Kang
18. Stryker
19. Classic Sub
20. Sektor
21. Sheeva
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung
 
XBLA/DS

1. Kabal
2. Kung Lao
3. Human Smoke
4. Ermac
5. Kano
6. Reptile
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax
21. Shang Tsung
22. Mileena
23. Sheeva
 
1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Reptile
4. Kano
5. Ermac
6. Nightwolf
7. Kung Lao
8. Robot Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Kitana
12. Stryker
13. Scorpion
14. Sonya
15. Jade
16. Unmasked Sub-Zero
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Mileena
21. Cyrax
22. Shang Tsung
23. Sheeva
 

Chase

Noob
DS

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Ermac
5. Kano
6. Reptile
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax
21. Shang Tsung
22. Mileena
23. Sheeva
 
xbox 360

1.human smoke
2.ermac
3.kabal
4.kano
5.reptile
6.kung lao
7.nightwolf
8.robo smoke
9.sindel
10.jax
11.sonya
12.scorpion
13.stryker
14.kitana
15.jade
16.sektor
17.unmasked sub-zero
18.cyrax
19.classic sub-zero
20.liu kang
21.mileena
22.shang tsung
23.sheeva
 
1. H Smoke
2. Kabal
3. Kung Lao
4. Reptile
5. Ermac
6. Nightwolf
7. Kano
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Stryker
11. Sonya
12. Jax
13. Unmasked Sub
14. Scorpion
15. Kitana
16. Classic Sub
17. Sektor
18. Liu Kang
19. Sheeva
20. Jade
21. Mileena
22. Cyrax
23. Shang Tsung
 
XBLA
1.Kung Lao
2.Reptile
3.H.Smoke
4.Stryker
5.Kabal
6.Ermac
7.R.Smoke
8.Kano
9.NightWolf
10.Jax
11.Unmasked Sub-Zero
12.Liu Kang
13.Sindel
14.Kitana
15.Cyrax
16.Sonya
17.Scorpion
18.Sektor
19.Jade
20.Classic Sub-Zero
21.Sheeva
22.Shang Tsung
23.Milleena
 

Shock

Administrator
Administrator
If we can get a few more tier lists in here I will go ahead and do all the various calculations I was planning on doing from the start, if not I'll do it by the new year regardless.
 
1.kabal
2.Human Smoke
3.Nightwolf
4.R. Smoke
5.Ermac
6.Kitana
7.Kung Lao
8.Sindel
9.Sonya
10.Jax
11.Kano
12.Sheeva
13.Jade
14.Reptile
15.U. Sub - Zero
16.Scorpion
17.Sektor
18.Stryker
19.Classic Sub
20.Shang Tsung
21.Liu Kang
22.Mileena
23. Cyrax
 

Shock

Administrator
Administrator
Check first post: http://www.ultimatemk.com/vForum/showthread.php?t=3718



Using approximately 34 individual tier lists, I cross referenced all of them and came up with this:

1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Ermac +2
5. Reptile
6. Kano -2
7. Nightwolf
8. Robot Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-zero
20. Mileena +2
21. Cyrax -1
22. Sheeva +1
23. Shang Tsung -2

Top Tier ( up to 5 points)
Kabal, Human Smoke, Kung Lao, Ermac

High Tier (5.01 - 10)
Reptile, Kano, Nightwolf, Robot Smoke, Sindel

Mid Tier (10.01 - 15)
Jax, Sonya, Kitana, Stryker, Scorpion, Unmasked Sub-zero

Low Tier (15.01 - 20)
Jade, Liu Kang, Sektor, Classic Sub-zero, Mileena

Bottom Tier (20.01 and higher)
Cyrax, Sheeva, Shang Tsung

Remember, that is a combination of all the tier lists mentioned, giving the same weight to online and offline, and different platforms. A further break down can be seen below. The more ranks a character is given, the less certain their placement is. So for example, Kabal's offline ranks are 1 and 2, but online they are 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6. Human Smoke also appears to have a pretty stable ranking with a low average range of 3.5 (for both off and online). Mileena has relatively unstable ranking with an average range of 8, and consequently benefits from this rerank. Have a look through, if there are any errors with the number lists, please post exactly what I did, and then what it should be.

Kabal: 1.5

Offline Ranks - 1, 2 (2)
Oline Ranks - 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 (5)
Average Rank - 1.5/3.4
Median Rank - 1.5/3
Mode Rank - 1/1
Highest Rank - 1/1
Lowest Rank - 2/6
All Ranks average - 1.15/1.73


Human Smoke: 2.03

Offline Ranks - 1, 2, 3 (3)
Online Ranks - 1, 2, 3, 4 (4)
Average Rank - 2/2.5
Median Rank - 2/2.5
Mode Rank - 2/2
Highest Rank - 1/1
Lowest Rank - 3/4
All Ranks average - 2/2.05 (2.03)


Kung Lao: 4.5

Offline Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 15 (4)
Online Ranks - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (8)
Average Rank - 6/4.5
Median Rank - 3.5/4.5
Mode Rank - 3/3
Highest Rank - 2/1
Lowest Rank - 15/8
All Ranks average - 5.08/4.2 (4.5)


Ermac: 4.68

Offline Ranks - 3, 5, 6 (3)
Online Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10 (6)
Average Rank - 4.66/5
Median Rank - 5/4.5
Mode Rank - 6/4.5
Highest Rank - 3/2
Lowest Rank - 6/10
All Ranks average - 5.08/4.45 (4.68)


Reptile: 5.75

Offline Ranks - 4, 5, 6, 14 (4)
Online Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (7)
Average Rank - 7.25/5
Median Rank - 5.5/5
Mode Rank - 5/6
Highest Rank - 4/2
Lowest Rank - 14/8
All Ranks average - 5.8/5.68 (5.75)


Kano: 6.07

Offline Ranks - 3, 4, 5, 9 (4)
Online Ranks - 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11 (7)
Average Rank - 5.25/6
Median Rank - 4.5/6
Mode Rank - 4/4
Highest Rank - 3/1
Lowest Rank - 1/11
All Ranks average - 4.41/6.93 (6.07)


Nightwolf: 6.18

Offline Ranks - 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 (5)
Online Ranks - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 (8)
Average Rank - 5.8/5.5
Median Rank - 6/5.5
Mode Rank - 7/7
Highest Rank - 3/2
Lowest Rank - 8/9
All Ranks average - 6.46/6 (6.18)


Robot Smoke: 7.65

Offline Ranks - 4, 7, 8, 9 (4)
Online Ranks - 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11 (6)
Average Rank - 7/7.33
Median Rank - 7.5/7.5
Mode Rank - 8/8
Highest Rank - 4/3
Lowest Rank - 9/11
All Ranks average - 7.46/7.78 (7.65)


Sindel: 9

Offline Ranks - 8, 9, 10 (3)
Online Ranks - 3, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 (6)
Average Rank - 9/9
Median Rank - 9/9.5
Mode Rank - 9/9
Highest Rank - 8/3
Lowest Rank - 10/13
All Ranks average - 8.75/9.15 (9)


Jax: 10.53

Offline Ranks - 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 (5)
Online Ranks - 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 (5)
Average Rank - 11/11
Median Rank - 11/11
Mode Rank - 10/10
Highest Rank - 9/9
Lowest Rank - 13/13
All Ranks average - 10.58/10.5 (10.53)


Sonya: 11.35

Offline Ranks - 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 (5)
Online Ranks - 6, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16 (8)
Average Rank - 12/11.75
Median Rank - 12/12
Mode Rank - 11/11
Highest Rank - 10/6
Lowest Rank - 14/16
All Ranks average - 11.16/11.47 (11.35)


Kitana: 11.9

Offline Ranks - 6, 9, 11, 12, 15 (5)
Online Ranks - 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 (6)
Average Rank - 10.6/12.5
Median Rank - 11/12.5
Mode Rank - 12/14
Highest Rank - 6/10
Lowest Rank - 15/15
All Ranks average - 11/12.55 (11.9)


Stryker: 12.4

Offline Ranks - 10, 12, 13, 14, 18 (5)
Online Ranks - 4, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15 18 (8)
Average Rank - 13.4/11.12
Median Rank - 13/11
Mode Rank - 13/12.5
Highest Rank - 10/4
Lowest Rank - 18/18
All Ranks average - 13.5/11.81 (12.4)


Scorpion: 14.4

Offline Ranks - 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 (5)
Online Ranks - 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 (7)
Average Rank - 14/15
Median Rank - 14/15
Mode Rank - 14/14
Highest Rank - 12/12
Lowest Rank - 16/18
All Ranks average - 14.07/14.66 (14.4)


Unmasked Sub-zero: (14.46)

Offline Ranks - 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 (5)
Online Ranks - 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 (7)
Average Rank - 14/14
Median Rank - 14/14
Mode Rank - 15/15
Highest Rank - 12/11
Lowest Rank - 16/17
All Ranks average - 14.61/14.36 (14.46)


Jade: 16.46

Offline Ranks - 13, 15, 16, 17, 20 (5)
Online Ranks - 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (8)
Average Rank - 16.2/17.5
Median Rank - 16/17.5
Mode Rank - 16/16
Highest Rank - 13/14
Lowest Rank - 20/21
All Ranks average - 15.61/17.05 (16.46)


Liu Kang: 17.74

Offline Ranks - 17, 18, 21, 22 (4)
Online Ranks - 12, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (7)
Average Rank - 19.5/17.57
Median Rank - 19.5/18
Mode Rank - 17/17
Highest Rank - 17/12
Lowest Rank - 22/21
All Ranks average - 17.83/17.68 (17.74)


Sektor: 18.30

Offline Ranks - 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (6)
Online Ranks - 16, 17, 18, 19, 22 (5)
Average Rank - 18.5/18.4
Median Rank - 18.5/18
Mode Rank - 18/18
Highest Rank - 16/16
Lowest Rank - 21/22
All Ranks average - 18.61/18.1 (18.30)


Classic Sub-zero: 18.81

Offline Ranks - 19, 20 (2)
Online Ranks - 11, 13, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 (8)
Average Rank - 19.5/17.5
Median Rank - 19.5/18.5
Mode Rank - 19/19
Highest Rank - 19/11
Lowest Rank - 20/22
All Ranks average - 19.23/18.52 (18.81)


Mileena: 19.75

Offline Ranks - 12, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22, 23 (7)
Online Ranks - 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (9)
Average Rank - 18.42/19
Median Rank - 18/19
Mode Rank - 22/21.5
Highest Rank - 12/15
Lowest Rank - 23/23
All Ranks average - 18.66/20.38 (19.75)


Cyrax: 20.67

Offline Ranks - 18, 20, 21, 22 (4)
Online Ranks - 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (8)
Average Rank - 20.25/19.37
Median Rank - 20.5/19.5
Mode Rank - 21/21
Highest Rank - 18/15
Lowest Rank - 22/23
All Ranks average - 20.25/20.94 (20.67)


Sheeva: 21.38

Offline Ranks - 12, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (6)
Online Ranks - 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (6)
Average Rank - 19.5/20.5
Median Rank - 20.5/20.5
Mode Rank - 23/23
Highest Rank - 12/18
Lowest Rank - 23/23
All Ranks average - 21.38/21.38 (21.38)


Shang Tsung: 22

Offline Ranks - 20, 21, 22, 23 (4)
Online Ranks - 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 (5)
Average Rank - 21.5/21
Median Rank - 21.5/21
Mode Rank - 23/23
Highest Rank - 20/19
Lowest Rank - 23/23
All Ranks average - 21.9/22.05 (22)
 

Shock

Administrator
Administrator
I deleted a couple posts. If you guys are going to continue to post tier lists, only post serious ones. Don't post jokes or partial lists. Feel free to discuss the combined list as well.
 
Not sure if this discussion would be appropriate, but I just have one noob question here:

Hanzo, I am curious about the reasons for a few of your rankings, especially since I've heard you're one of the best in this game. I'm particularly wondering about Kung Lao #15, Stryker #18 (does Venezuela ban infinites or something?), and Mileena #12.

Thanks in advance!
 

Shock

Administrator
Administrator
Those numbers show how much characters moved around after all the tier lists submitted by players from this site were analyzed and cross-referenced. As we can see, it's not much, but it's very reasonable/realistic movement because it happens in the two most highly disputed sections of the list.
 
Hmm I see, sort of anyway. Will you guys do a Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance REUPDATED tier list? or Mortal Kombat Deception? Its about time games like that get focused on instead of always UCrapMK3, MKT.
 

Tim Static

Adminerator
Hmm I see, sort of anyway. Will you guys do a Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance REUPDATED tier list? or Mortal Kombat Deception? Its about time games like that get focused on instead of always UCrapMK3, MKT.
Here is the one warning you will get here: Chill with insulting the games you suck at. No one is worried about anything involving the garbage 3d games. is that a good enough answer to why? ok, good. drop your vendetta and move on.
 
Here is the one warning you will get here: Chill with insulting the games you suck at. No one is worried about anything involving the garbage 3d games. is that a good enough answer to why? ok, good. drop your vendetta and move on.
Dude who said I suck at UMK3? Plus its my opinion about UMK3 just likes it was your opinion when you said about the 3D games being garbage. Vendetta? What/where are you getting this stuff from?