General/Other - Kotal Kahn Totem and air grab cancels on block frame data.

[FOREVER EL1TE]

Totem cancels on block
S1=-8 or higher
S2=-8 or higher
S3=-8 or higher
S4=-1

11=-8 or higher
114=+2
B1=-8 or higher
B12=-8 or higher
B122=-8 or higher
B14=-8 or higher
F1B2=-8 or higher

21=-8 or higher

B3=-8 or higher
F3=-8 or higher
F34=-8 or higher

D1/2/3/4=-8 or higher

Air grab cancels on block
S1=-8 or higher
S2=-8 or higher
S3=-8 or higher
S4=-1

11=-8 or higher
114=+4
B1=-8 or higher
B12=-8 or higher
B122=-8 or higher
B14=-8 or higher
F1B2=-8 or higher

21=-8 or higher

B3=-8 or higher
F3=-8 or higher
F34=-8 or higher

D1/2/3/4=-8 or higher

@Mr Aquaman
@GGA Dizzy If you would like to test and compare the frame data.
@Any other Kotal Player

 

[SM StarGazer]

Khanlike!

 

[dennycascade]

you sure 114 is +2? I thought air grab cancel was +4 and totem was +5

 

[BillStickers]

does higher mean more negative or closer to neutral?

 

[Eddy Wang]

I hate this character.

Can someone pls make a video on how to escape his tick throws, those are freaking dumb.

 

[TheRealOnlyGoonie]

I hate this character.

Can someone pls make a video on how to escape his tick throws, those are freaking dumb.

ON YOUR KNEES

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I hate this character.

Can someone pls make a video on how to escape his tick throws, those are freaking dumb.

Yeah dude on your knees. You suck

 

[dennycascade]

I hate this character.

Can someone pls make a video on how to escape his tick throws, those are freaking dumb.

Jump

 

[stamatis]

Great job. (That blue color letters killed me man).

 

[Eddy Wang]

Yeah dude on your knees. You suck

It cannot be neutral crouched either right? Sometimes i take the hit to whiff the throw, but that ain't going to stick forever.

Guess i need to grind this MU a little, otherwise ill be screwed at AGM.

 

[TheGoldenJew]

It cannot be neutral crouched either right? Sometimes i take the hit to whiff the throw, but that ain't going to stick forever.

Guess i need to grind this MU a little, otherwise ill be screwed at AGM.

armor/jump...d1~grab isn't a block string...on blocked d1 just armor that shit

 

[Rampage254]

I hate this character.

Can someone pls make a video on how to escape his tick throws, those are freaking dumb.

Jump, armor, backdash, or take the hit. Not that hard.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

It cannot be neutral crouched either right? Sometimes i take the hit to whiff the throw, but that ain't going to stick forever.

Guess i need to grind this MU a little, otherwise ill be screwed at AGM.

I love u eddy But everyone is right. Pretty simple to get out. It's all about reactions.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Jump, armor, backdash, or take the hit. Not that hard.

I'm part of the trash team now, of course is that hard.


Anyway, if you guys are telling armor and backdash also works, then i need to work on a bit more on my timing, since i'm not that used to fight sun god, i'm having a really hard time escaping that from B1 mostly, my timing gotta be probably off somehow.

 

[Rampage254]

I'm part of the trash team now, of course is that hard.


Anyway, if you guys are telling armor and backdash also works, then i need to work on a bit more on my timing, since i'm not that used to fight sun god, i'm having a really hard time escaping that from B1 mostly, my timing gotta be probably off somehow.

If you know they're gonna try and tick throw, take the hit of b1 and whiff punish the command throw.

 

[Second Saint]

If you know they're gonna try and tick throw, take the hit of b1 and whiff punish the command throw.

Better yet, block the b1 and crossover jump punish. The recovery of sun choke on whiff is seriously that long.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Good stuff, i'm going to take your advices and lab it up.

Thank you everyone

#imzoffs

 

[stamatis]

It cannot be neutral crouched either right? Sometimes i take the hit to whiff the throw, but that ain't going to stick forever.

Guess i need to grind this MU a little, otherwise ill be screwed at AGM.

This grab is a mid,that's why you can't deal with it.

 

[Braindead]

#imzoffs

@zoofs

NotLikeThis

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

does higher mean more negative or closer to neutral?

More negative

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

you sure 114 is +2? I thought air grab cancel was +4 and totem was +5

It might just be my timing, but I can't get an 11 frame normal to stuff an 8 frame reversal

 

[jharris]

you sure 114 is +2? I thought air grab cancel was +4 and totem was +5

im pretty sure 114 air grab is +4, strict timing though to guarantee b1

 

[Vak Phoenix]

Thanks

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

im pretty sure 114 air grab is +4, strict timing though to guarantee b1

Changing it

 

[GAV]

@Eddy Wang

The OP absolutely bodied my SG, so he's a good one to ask.

Also, I am the LK. MY SG had nothing for either of these guys.