Summoner Quan Chi, Cyber Kano, and Necromancer Shinnok are good for you.
Nope Kung Jin and Sonya...
yo u didnt respond to my comment i made earlier today
You killed my smart ass response to a dude coming in a zoning thread asking what anti-zoners to use lol.
I will break down each character's basic zoning tools soon.
While the rune is definitely similar to Freddy's spike, Quan Chi, again, is the only character in the game who cannot get up from the ground. You must have some kind of reversal attack in this game, even if the reversal attack is -100 on block.
While I agree Freddy has more escappability by far, quan is way better than Freddy was in the projectile game ( once he snowballs) because, his ex rune frame traps into rune, his fireball frame traps into rune, and his bat frame traps into rune and his low bat is 46 frames of advantAge and his reg plus 26, the summon release can be done reptitively to force them into a guessing game between summon or rune. everything can be converted to big damage and his bat can even cover his backdash and punish tps. Imagine if Freddy had sinestros trait but didn't need to charge it.
@THTB showed up at my place and annihilated Matt and me for the first couple of hours of gameplay. Reptile is a solid character who destroys Quan Chi in the corner. I never felt so helpless. You just cannot escape.
Idk about reptile yet, I really don't, too early for that. I think it'll take time to see what he can do but black fellow dropped him for Kano(and he loves reptile)and we can't connect anyway. I feel like quan can still keep him out despite his armor. Because once bat is out it can either trade or interrupt those tools. ( like subs slide or Los mb flying kick)
Kanos b1 is unreal 8f Mid neutral and great stagger. why is he so insane? I was throwing his mb projectiles in training mode and its like the screen starts quaking he throws so fast. Mid hitting projectiles build so much meter.
Who should I pick up
Yup.
To cover kenshis bad mus? Or a new char?? Your a very good zoner and very good at knowing when to disrespect people and change pace and mixup. Jaqcui, or Kano if you want to win automatically right now and wreck smargasm, jaqcui does what she wants. Quan you'd be good with too, zod players sinestros and Martians will feel at home with him, plus you were very good at being a dick with zods trait so you could be a dick with quans mixups.
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So I've heard from mr. Dribirut. on the anti air but tick throws?? M2rushdown?
Which Is?
b1's pretty bullshit all around lol.
Exactly this. I play Cassie, am friends with a couple Quan Chi mains and the match usually begins and ends in a corner. Either I get the rushown and trap Quan, or Quan gets the bat setup he needs and keeps me at fullscreen in the opposite corner. Flawless rounds everywhere in that matchup. I feel like its pretty balanced considering both characters need meter to make those traps effective. I will say they ought to buff Quan's teleport on wakeup, because the amount of moves that stuff the EX version is dumb.
Well if I made the game I'd make his f41 a bit mor competitive in the frame data department, probably give ex wake ups invincibility frames universally, nerf his bat cool down, nerf universal jk priority because aas are godlike, buff walk speed slightly universally, make his low bat hit mid, make his b3 string a safe hard knockdown which is un cancel able, nerf kanos knives by making them a high and slightly slower but give him new laser moves, and nerf b1, nerf jaqcuis guns, the ability to launch of military stance low, and a lot of other things Involving 50/50sbut you can't have your cake and eat it too.
You're saying you want to out zone, out rush, and even anti zone when needed with one character- MMH was that character who was master of all trades jack of none and he was a bullshit character design. Kabal i guess also had this to a degree because he could EX dash through zoning, once against a bullshit character design.
I actually rush down in this game more than I ever have in any other. The game obviously favors rush down gameplay over traditional zoning.
