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THE OFFICIAL MK11 COMPLAINT/RANT THREAD

Three straight fucking losses in KL. A fucking Kotal Kahn, a Kitana, and a goddamn sub zero. Fuck this game. I can beat everybody else but if I come across a low tier like kotal or Kitana I get fucking clapped
 
Change that to 4 losses. Fourth loss in a row to Kung fucking Lao who spammed divekick the entire game. Fuck Kombat league. Not getting on this shitty game until Nightwolf comes out
 

OutworldKeith

Champion
Its not a complain/rant, but a question, cause no need to open new thread for it.

Is someone knows if(or how) if i record certain move/s in practice mode and then put AI to repeat them, how i can make AI to shuffle them ???

Cause i dont find such option, but was read somewhere that there is a way to do it.
Recordings are numbered 1-4. Record the AI doing whatever on each slot. Go to playback and set it to random.
 
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fr stack

Noob's saibot or noob saibot's?
Jax. Honesty it isn’t Kung Lao’s fault, I just suck at the matchup and need to get better clearly.
Walk forward watch his jump patterns 1 empty jump into jump tele
2 empty jumps into divekick etc dont react until you see him press then its block if divekick or jump back (walk back) if its tele
Lao is very unsafe unless they play like foxy
 
KL is still an exercise in frustration...

Scorpion's teleport is a high, but more of those players just switched to Sub-Zero and enjoy nutty 50/50s all day.

I still have to accept 140 ms wi-fi players, who then pick Sub-Zero and enjoy laggy, nutty 50/50s all day.

I don't understand why NRS seemed to design most of the cast with neutral-based play in mind, but then put in the likes of Sonya, Geras, Erron and Sub, who can just mash out 50/50s without thought.

This is a vent about NRS' fixation on dumb 50/50 characters, laggy wi-fi and how they ruined Sub-Zero for me. Thanks.
 

Gaxkang

Banned
So I got to the final tower hub for Shang Tsung's character towers...the 6th one.

The requirements to do towers in the 6th hub include winning 75 fights in towers...doing 35 fatal blows in towers...etc.

I just wanted the snake intro...I would pay time crystals for it, gah… :eek:
 

M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
People switched from counterpicking me with Cassie, to Frost, now that she has a 11 frame mid and her freeze doesn't whiff any more, she can efficiently shit on Cage even worse than before.

Yay.
 

GrandMasterson

The Netherrealm beckons
I don't think I can take this game anymore. It just feels terrible to play. Not in terms of balance or meta which I can live with but just how it feels in my hands. This game has ungodly amounts of recovery to absolutely everything, like you're always stuck in place waiting for animations to finish way longer than you should be, even when you have plus frames. It makes the game feel like there's tons of unnecessary delay and it's made far worse by buffering being almost nonexistent. I thought I would get used to it after 4 months but it just feels worse and worse. Despite MK9 and MKX's massive problems they still felt miles better to play imo. I feel like such an idiot because I bought the game and the Kombat Pack twice but I never want to touch it again. I want to like it so much but I just can't.
 

NothingPersonal

Are you not entertained!?
I don't think I can take this game anymore. It just feels terrible to play. Not in terms of balance or meta which I can live with but just how it feels in my hands. This game has ungodly amounts of recovery to absolutely everything, like you're always stuck in place waiting for animations to finish way longer than you should be even when you have plus frames. It makes the game feel like there's tons of unnecessary delay and it's made far worse by buffering being almost nonexistent. It's so bad for me that after 4 months I still can't get used to it, it just feels worse and worse. Despite MK9 and MKX's massive problems they still felt miles better to play imo. I feel like such an idiot because I bought the game and the Kombat Pack twice but I never want to touch it again. I want to like it so much but I just can't.
Put on your favourite porn-star moaning while you play. Helps a lot.
 

dark55

Noob
So there are a lot of things that they did right in this game but there r tons of things they did wrong. Auto regenerating meter has to be one of the worst ideas ever, fatal blows are pretty cool but the fact that you can miss your FB and not have to worry about anything bc 8 secs it will be back. There should be 0 reason why im beating you up and now i HAVE to play hella safe now bc you have a fatal blow locked and loaded.... why do you have so many highs in the game? whiffing moves to pressure is super dumb, D2's literally have priority over practically all jump ins is also a lil redic. Pretty much this has been the worst of all the nrs games in the past 9 years. Well tied for 1st because IJ2 was horrible as well. Stagger pressure into grabs has to be one of the dumbest ways to play a game as well. This is why NRS game life only last a couple years then they make another game. Its like they dont listen or take away from the last game and do this crap where they make a pretty much completely different mk and think its tight. Also why do we even have 2 variations? most characters i would say 95% at least only have 1 competitive variation and the other 1 is complete trash. The latest patch was trash to. You didnt do ANYTHING. You gave some stuff to some of the weakest of characters but nothing to allow them to really compete. also there r tons of characters you didn't bother touching at all that need to get touched. NRS has had all this time to " gather data" and they though only a few characters would suffice in this " BIG" patch? Everyone who were top before are still top. Paulo needs to work on his " giving a chararacter something and taking away something". He needs to just buff or nerf something and not try to " keep stuff in line" If something is super good with a character nerf that shit....simple. Dont make it to where they arent a character anymore, just enough to where ppl cant use it as a crutch to win. Paulo didn't fix pretty much anything in MKX until the final patch where he fixed pretty much every major problem that existed but it was too late bc the game was dead at that point. I hope he doesnt do the same thing with this game. After the first major patch it seems like its going to be a repeat.
 
There's a lot of gameplay issues that people have already brought up so I am not going to bring it up again for the billionth time.

But something that I rarely see talked about is the complete lack of body diversity for the female characters...
Am I the only one who's really disappointed and tired of them all having the same bodies? I was reminded of this again with Sindel.

People went on about the costumes, and while I much prefer a lot of the MKX costumes ( Kitana especially, her MK11 is dogshit imo. Her MKX was perfect. ).
I don't hate the MK11 costumes.
I hated the virtue signaling surrounding it and the performative woke shit like the interview with Steve Beran for Polygon and Ed Boon's comments, like give me a fucking break.
And I am just getting incredibly tired of that narrative in the industry altogether.

But ignoring that, which is admitedly hard for me to do because I think that it's incredibly sexist crap from people trying to rephrase it to sound progressive.
What really does bother me tho is that despite all of this posturing, the female characters just look more like bikini models with average genetics.
But the male characters are super hyper masculine and look like they spend all day every day all roided up working out, eating and sleeping.
The female characters don't look like they belong in the same setting as the male characters, the male characters still look cartoonish and '' unrealistic '' for what they're doing and it makes the female characters look boring.
And they're too cowardly to go down either a more overtly feminine or masculine route with them, like they want to win these brownie points with their posturing, but at the same time they're too cowardly to make them look buff because they still want them to be conventionally attractive.
Even as someone who loves overtly feminine and lewd female characters it still bothers the shit out of me, because it feels so disingenous and fake.
Even in MK9 that everyone uses as '' the worst '' example the female characters actually had muscles and looked buff.
Sure the anatomy was wonky but it was for everyone, it kinda was just in general in all games back then really.

I just want to see more variety, it also does include the male characters too but it's a bigger problem with the female characters imo because they just don't look like they exist in the same stylized setting as the male characters.
And the male characters actually do have some variety at least.
People are so obsessed with '' realistic depictions of women '' that they forget or are so oblivious to the fact that the depictions of the men ain't '' realistic '' in the slightest to begin with. And it makes the women look like the odd ones out.
And the male characters ARE sexualized, like give me a damn break... Anyone who says that they aren't haven't been around women or gay/bi men much. Young Jax in particular is extremely hot and sexualized. And they all look like models, even freaking Kano has a perfect face, perfectly groomed and body.
I want to see big boobs, small boobs, skinny, muscular etc.
I wouldn't mind seeing some larger women too, I just want variety.
Instead they just all look like they're stuck with the base '' unedited T-pose 3D model '' or something if that makes sense.

It honestly has me a bit worried about Mileena if she's potentially going to be in the second Kombat Pack.
I worry that they're too afraid or not willing to keep her true to her design, or that she's not in the game at all because they're afraid or something...

Like when you have overtly feminine characters in a goofy setting you can kinda buy that they're standing face to face with overtly masculine guys, it's part of the fantasy. And they all look like they're on the same level of idealized and perfection.
But when the female characters are just nothing at all it sorta feels to me as if it's breaking the fourth wall, especially when you have the devs posturing about it and making a statement about it.

I think that maybe it isn't a big deal to most people because most people play male characters, and there's this very aggressive '' I don't care about anything other than muh gaemplay and I'll attack anyone who complains about anything having to do with NRS because I am a mindless fanboy hurr durr '' thing surrounding games but especially with NRS I feel.
But to me who exclusively play female characters it's incredibly disappointing and makes them feel so incredibly underwhelming and boring.

It's an issue in the industry as a whole tho, not just NRS games.
Female characters all look like they have the identical body and then the moment that a female characters has overtly feminine shapes they get accused of being designed by a '' horny teenager '' ( which is just the accuser being an immature asshat ), and when they're designed with more overtly masculine shapes people complain that they're too ugly and masculine.
I can sorta sympathize with devs a little bit, but seriously.
Grow the fuck up and stop being so cowardly, pick one.
And if you're not going to pick one then stop posturing about it and pretending like you're brave.
 
Taking a break from this game made me realize how much I actually don’t have that much fun playing it.
Tbh, I think that's kinda part of the NRS cycle in a way.
People get super hyped up about MK, they sell a shit ton of copies more than any other fighting game.
And then it dies down....
And the cycle repeats itself every time.

MK9 and MKX were both great imo tho, but there's so much in MK11 that feels like a huge step back to me.
Just go back and play MKX and it's so much more fun and MK11 feels like it's in slowmotion in comparison :/.
 

M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
Against my better judgement I jumped online to get some matches.

And I had some horrendous laggy matches but not permanent, but clearly in certain moments.

For instance, there was this Kung Lao that kept jump kicking and staggering his mid. The weird part is that my game literally froze (on ps4) each time his mid hit me, so I couldn't poke or react or anything. And he literally beat me like that for 2 rounds, while my game hiccuped constantly exactly when he hit me.

There was this Geras that after a grab, he would d1 spam and grab. And on each moment I woke up from the ground, I got a freeze and I couldn't press anything, and he literally beat me with 15 grabs in a row or some shit.

Ok, fine, lag, I asked for it, sure.

But then I started to wonder. How come I am the only one getting the freezes, why doesn't the game fuck over my opponent like that so I can free win.

And then it hit me. In the rest of the matches, where everything is fine and there is no lag for me, I BET IT fucks over my opponent, so the game freezes for him constantly and I just spam him with combos and mids and think I am good but actually I'm only winning because of lag.

So practically I haven't won a single match I played online, EVER.

Thanks NRS.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Agreed. Wake up rolls completely shut down pressure fighters too. This game does everything in its power to slow you down. It favors projectile based characters. That's why they added so much knockback. At least throws and command grabs stuff rolls. That's the only good thing thing about throws in this game.
As someone who plays a pressure character, they absolutely do not. If I think you’re going to roll, I’ll either throw you or just wait a half second and full punish you as you’re coming out of it.

They only shut down braindead players who want to mash stuff out without thinking, but you rolling actually allows me to continue my pressure, rather than stopping it.
 

Blazeglory88

50/50 Savant - Lore>Gore
There's a lot of gameplay issues that people have already brought up so I am not going to bring it up again for the billionth time.

But something that I rarely see talked about is the complete lack of body diversity for the female characters...
Am I the only one who's really disappointed and tired of them all having the same bodies? I was reminded of this again with Sindel.

People went on about the costumes, and while I much prefer a lot of the MKX costumes ( Kitana especially, her MK11 is dogshit imo. Her MKX was perfect. ).
I don't hate the MK11 costumes.
I hated the virtue signaling surrounding it and the performative woke shit like the interview with Steve Beran for Polygon and Ed Boon's comments, like give me a fucking break.
And I am just getting incredibly tired of that narrative in the industry altogether.

But ignoring that, which is admitedly hard for me to do because I think that it's incredibly sexist crap from people trying to rephrase it to sound progressive.
What really does bother me tho is that despite all of this posturing, the female characters just look more like bikini models with average genetics.
But the male characters are super hyper masculine and look like they spend all day every day all roided up working out, eating and sleeping.
The female characters don't look like they belong in the same setting as the male characters, the male characters still look cartoonish and '' unrealistic '' for what they're doing and it makes the female characters look boring.
And they're too cowardly to go down either a more overtly feminine or masculine route with them, like they want to win these brownie points with their posturing, but at the same time they're too cowardly to make them look buff because they still want them to be conventionally attractive.
Even as someone who loves overtly feminine and lewd female characters it still bothers the shit out of me, because it feels so disingenous and fake.
Even in MK9 that everyone uses as '' the worst '' example the female characters actually had muscles and looked buff.
Sure the anatomy was wonky but it was for everyone, it kinda was just in general in all games back then really.

I just want to see more variety, it also does include the male characters too but it's a bigger problem with the female characters imo because they just don't look like they exist in the same stylized setting as the male characters.
And the male characters actually do have some variety at least.
People are so obsessed with '' realistic depictions of women '' that they forget or are so oblivious to the fact that the depictions of the men ain't '' realistic '' in the slightest to begin with. And it makes the women look like the odd ones out.
And the male characters ARE sexualized, like give me a damn break... Anyone who says that they aren't haven't been around women or gay/bi men much. Young Jax in particular is extremely hot and sexualized. And they all look like models, even freaking Kano has a perfect face, perfectly groomed and body.
I want to see big boobs, small boobs, skinny, muscular etc.
I wouldn't mind seeing some larger women too, I just want variety.
Instead they just all look like they're stuck with the base '' unedited T-pose 3D model '' or something if that makes sense.

It honestly has me a bit worried about Mileena if she's potentially going to be in the second Kombat Pack.
I worry that they're too afraid or not willing to keep her true to her design, or that she's not in the game at all because they're afraid or something...

Like when you have overtly feminine characters in a goofy setting you can kinda buy that they're standing face to face with overtly masculine guys, it's part of the fantasy. And they all look like they're on the same level of idealized and perfection.
But when the female characters are just nothing at all it sorta feels to me as if it's breaking the fourth wall, especially when you have the devs posturing about it and making a statement about it.

I think that maybe it isn't a big deal to most people because most people play male characters, and there's this very aggressive '' I don't care about anything other than muh gaemplay and I'll attack anyone who complains about anything having to do with NRS because I am a mindless fanboy hurr durr '' thing surrounding games but especially with NRS I feel.
But to me who exclusively play female characters it's incredibly disappointing and makes them feel so incredibly underwhelming and boring.

It's an issue in the industry as a whole tho, not just NRS games.
Female characters all look like they have the identical body and then the moment that a female characters has overtly feminine shapes they get accused of being designed by a '' horny teenager '' ( which is just the accuser being an immature asshat ), and when they're designed with more overtly masculine shapes people complain that they're too ugly and masculine.
I can sorta sympathize with devs a little bit, but seriously.
Grow the fuck up and stop being so cowardly, pick one.
And if you're not going to pick one then stop posturing about it and pretending like you're brave.
It's just the way things are going now. Personally I can't wait to play a full transgender pansexual LBTBBQ roster of only POC characters filled with glorious diversity and progressiveness. The women's bodies in MK11 are realistic, don't you understand that? All women look like 2x4's and all men look like Arnold, no exceptions. Get woke or Go broke b i g o t.
 

LawAbidingCitizen

Bomb Setups & Ball Rolls(Mileena/Cyrax)
I have a complaint but it isn't about the game mechanics or characters being OP. Its about the players who constantly bitch about characters. There are strong characters with strong tools But in my opinion there are no broke characters just bad MU's and characters with better/more tools.

No matter how many times characters get nerfed players will still complain before labbing up responses. Just need there salt away instead of saying maybe I did something wrong? Hell no it had to be my opponent had some sort of advantage!

When the game first came out I thought "insert top tier character" was brain dead or an easy win. After taking the 3 week challenge (using your most hated character for 3 weeks) I realized the character wasn't as free as I thought.
This happened with several characters.

I encourage everyone who thinks a character is broke or win button to main them for 2 weeks minimum and see how truly free they actually are. I'm 99% sure you will find you are wrong unless you are stubborn AF