And I'll be the only idiot at shows still playing Cyrax. *sigh*
Thank you, Kizzle, for getting it.My whole problem with Kabal is that he supercedes the actual fighting game engine. He doesn't allow any character to play footsies or actually play the game itself. He's literally like a playable boss character. He is as bad as T6 vanilla Bob and almost as bad as T4 Jin. People who say he's fine, body autopilot or straight shit kabals online or in their local scenes and don't travel to tournies and compete at the highest level.
On the edge 2-REO
Console Combat-MasterD
Comicpalooza-Cat
UFGT8-Kevo Da Man
Toryuken-REO
All Kabal wins. I can't wait till Morty, Detroit, Cat and Reo all place top 8 at MLG using Kabal.
And this topic is posted again.
This I agree with. If the biggest problem he had was NDC's, he'd be a much different story. It's one of, if not THE, most unique tactics in the game, and it's what makes him solid as fuck and stands him out from the rest.
I agree, brother Blake...I really hope this ends up just being another passing phase.
So basically pick up cage or sonya with their quick combo starters?
I still say EX dash is the biggest problem. No zoning character in this game should have an armor move that can be canceled. There is at least some risk involved with Freddy's EX teleport and Kenshi's EX Spirit Charge. With EX dash, there is no risk, which is what separates Kabal from other zoning characters. I would suggest removing the armor and placing it on the EX overhead.
You make it sound so easy. When your playing a high hit box character like the ones I use, NDC off standing 2 is a big problem. Even if they don't do the infinite, they still mix it into their strings which keeps them at random frame advantage. Every time they NDC off a 2 their next follow up is free. I think Ikizzle is right when he says that kabal supercedes the game engine and also when he says that the people who say he's fine, is just simply cuz they don't know what they are talking about.
9f standing 2
They wouldnt change anything significant about him though, he would still completely disregard MK9s meta-game by spamming fireballs.
21 dash
the advantage isnt random, go read it. The big hitbox characters arguement doesnt really matter because its a difference of +2 frames to deal with as long as it isnt 2NDC, so a character like SZ can mash 22 on cancels and all Kabal can do is poke or armour.
i just checked that and off f32 ND (+2) his next f3 becomes 11 frames so yeah i have 2 frames to standing 2 out from that, but if he follows up with any of his faster strings than f3 then i cant interrupt unless its d1 or d3, as i already thought.
His standing 2 is what Flightwolf stopped me with when i tried to standing 2 out of his +2 advantage cancels, he could have full combo'd me while i was trying it, confirming that smokes very fucked outside of pokes and EX shake guesses.
