121, B114 and if the opponent decides to dash in after he blocks it Ermac can easily do, D3 just to name some. Ermac doesnt need pressure cause he is a zoner but that doesnt mean that he cant manage upclose against many characters.
I think it's even, possibly 5.5-4.5 Kenshi. Sais are actually pretty decent against Kenshi with good spacing. She can roll under her own reflected fireballs for a combo, and that's really fucking annoying. Even at max range she'll roll in far enough to be able to down 4 your ass.
Sure but 11 frames is still fine for what it's worth, he can still outclass a lot of other normals. Chip-damage can add up and so do throws. Remember if the opponent is impatient, we can usually cash in on it very quickly, most simply with :en Shake(unblockable 9%), at the best we get a full combo. Not to mention how many things we can follow up into Smoke Bomb for decent damage. (Naked Smoke bomb gets you ~29%(decent damage) but we usually have a fast normal before then.) Not to mention his corner game.
his b114 is safe yes... but it is SUPER slow... and you won't throw that out there unless you land a JiP. I'm not misinformed about him... he has no pressure strings OR mixups. His only overhead is slow as anything. Not to mention that every special is punishable at sweep range. So yeah.
you must be a mind reader... i bow to your mind reading ways.... dude. this isn't theory fighter. I'm telling you why he has those characters as bad match ups. Your ONE response to pressure is that you'll throw. Thats pretty thin considering JC will lock you down in a footsie game which you won't win, same with Sonya and Jax.
Who said anything about theory fighters ??? I m talking from experience. And i m telling again i dont need to pressure those characters i ll just zone them. What part of ZONE THEM you dont understand ? When they come close i ll block what they do and down poke them after their string is over. The only thing i have to be careful is when JC and Jax have bars cause of the armored moves which is why you dont throw random TKP's. Its not that difficult to win these matches you just have to be patient and careful. I hear all the time "when JC reaches his opponent its over for him bla bla bla" well its not if you know how to counter these things. If you dont have anything to say, being ironic wont get you anywhere m8. Just saying... If you wanna continue this then send me a PM.
No point of discussing it with him really.They only answer to you know who
just an fyi, the best way for kitana to own sindel in this matchup is for Kitana to stay at half screen at all times vs sindel.. dont bother trying to be full screen, just stay half screen and iaf, ground fan etc sindel is fucked at this range vs Kitana. however if the sindel keeps kitana at full screen and baits teleports sindel owns her. thats why its a 5.5-4.5 or 6/4 in kits favor,.
This is a good explanation and u hit the nail on the head when u said armor.
Mileena:
Alright, well thanks for clearing it up for me.
Scorpion = most under used, most under valued and I think possibly s tier definitely A+ tier
Completely screwed with no life lead
Lol I like wat u did there.
Not any more.A L E X said:
okay i thought my logic was right... b.c. i main both scorpion and subzero since day one and both of mine are really good i just cant go to tourneys love too if i could but i always felt he was under valued...
REO, Tom, and I represented Ermac. Our problems with Ermac are simple to understand. He gets rushed down easily, especially when he fights a character who can punish TKP. He has no armor moves, so he is free to cross ups. His up close game does not make up for his weak defense. I would argue that he was never as good as people made him out to be. The community unjustifiably cried when his damage was high.KamikazeJD said:
Obviously, the question was meant for m2dave, but, imo, the big reason is because it's hard for him to zone now because 1/2 the cast has armor and the other half has a teleport ... -_-
