CrazyFingers
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Interesting idea, I'll have to try that out!
Interesting idea, I'll have to try that out!
@SHAOLIN is working on that and he's honestly a much better person to ask. I'm still learning him.Wheres my sticky? :,(
But this helped me out a lot, great job! Now do Pretty Laddy
What corner set ups does she have? Like i know ending with low chainsaw is plus 10 but what do i do after? Also most consistent meter combo in corner against female hitboxes
Pretty Lady doesn't really have corner setups like other characters that you might have played. After the low saw toss ender, I mostly back off & see how they react & plan accordingly. Once I've gotten them in check than (1,2) (F1,2) (2,2), (2,2,U2) & (2,2,D2) start to come into play. Hopefully there's someone out there that can prove me wrong.
Here you go:
Nice! And ohh i thought ex upsaw just didnt work in general against females, guess i was wrong! Also how much would
He actually builds meter at a reasonable pace because we're constantly canceling into DF2 on block. The meterburn throw is better in matchups where they can get out of your pressure a lot easier (aka characters with really good armor on wakeup, this makes that not an option and since our damage is meterless, we have meter often) and as for the combos I'll add those to the OP for sure and B2 DOES guarantee a JiP which makes the vortex possible but I rarely use the vortex, just doesn't seem nearly as worth as it once was but it IS an option for sure.
On hit, not much, if you block the poke, you can poke out between the Butcher's poke and the mallet. You'll have to lab to see what you can do in that gap, some characters can full combo punish.
the timing is awkward but i am 99% sure you can poke out.Well I was shinnok and my 6f d1 kept getting beat so like... bruh.
I actually optimized the meterless stuff a bit more!
Is the vortex you talk about what you mentioned in the guide under "Second B2 vs F1 After Restand"? Or is it something more along the lines of Smoke's vortex where you jip after the trident, wait a split second, then go OH or low?
More like Smoke's. I don't usually talk about Butcher's vortex simply because it's not that strong. It does a meh amount of damage while also being awkward to execute. I'd prefer to just go for being fairly plus into mixup since I'd honestly be fine with someone burning meter to get out of the 50/50, less bar for them to use on productive things.
That would definitely help him.
I wish he had legit tick throws.
F1 doesn't make it gapless while JiP leaves no gaps. I personally, as I mentioned, go for a second B2 as it gives the most damage and still leaves you insanely plus.
So 2nd B2 also guarantees vortex without gaps as does crossup JIP? It seems that after 2nd B2 opponent gets stunned away from butcher (or that distance still gives you free 50/50?).
We had a big discussion about this a while ago and the conclusion was that ji2 (not ji1, it's got less hitstun) is the only button with enough advantage to force them to block both the oh and low 50/50. I'm not sure if it has to be a late ji2 or if you can do the ji2 after b2 and still get the vortex. With f1 and b2,b2 they can backdash or armor out of both or at least 1 option. Backdash is easiest, because you can buffer it. You can't buffer specials out of hitstun, so it's incredibly difficult to armor on frame 1 although possible with practice.
I see, but tbh - F1 after B2 has done same good results for me as JIP1 (I was using crossup jip1 instead of jp2 before). Not once I got an opponent to backdash or armor after F1 hitstun. Either their lack in execution as they have very little window to react after F1, or they just don't know the MU.
