Thanks. I have something else that I can't test on my own. Jax's ex HIGH dash punch has 10 frame startup, after ending combo with B212+4 it's extremely hard to stuff it with F1 (I never succeed). BUT his ex OVERHEAD dash punch has 15 frame startup, it's much easier to stuff with F1 (I did that in real matches).Someone call the paramedics I think I may have had a heart attack. They completely fixed f12 in piercing. Kitana, who was once the biggest offender by being one of the only characters 2 would completely miss on no matter how you tried to manipulate hurt boxes, eats all 4 hits. Also tested on Raiden, Lao, Jin and Cassie from a meaty f1 post hkd, standing, crouching, stand to crouch and vice versa.
Anything around 15f or higher startup can be stuffed with F1 after ending combos with B212+4. Wakeups below 15f can be stuffed with F1 if you use 21U4 as a combo ender. I'm in the middle of making a video showing every armoured move that can be stuffed by F1 but haven't finished recording all the footage. What I can tell you is that Mileena can stuff every armoured move in the game except for:Thanks. I have something else that I can't test on my own. Jax's ex HIGH dash punch has 10 frame startup, after ending combo with B212+4 it's extremely hard to stuff it with F1 (I never succeed). BUT his ex OVERHEAD dash punch has 15 frame startup, it's much easier to stuff with F1 (I did that in real matches).
My question is: Is there a setup that allows Mileena to stuff that 10 frame wakeup easier? Or is it non stuffable?
You can do F12 xx Ex teleckick air sai for 20% or simply go for the restand with F12+4Jax is considered air borne while doing dash punch. After F1 he will be juggled and if we do F12 combo the next hits whiff. What is the possible combo to do in such situations? F1 roll whiffs too. F1 sai will hit but I don't like that 9% combo when I make a good read about the overhead dash punch
Side note, as far as I know we cannot make the AI to wakeup/reversal with overhead dash punch
she can blow 6 frame start ups with F1 but the window is very tightJaxs punches can all be stuffed with f1. I'm pretty sure f1 can beat as low as 7 frame start up armored moves with a frame perfect meaty.
Did some number crunching, looks like f3 goes airborne around the 20th frame.
Enjoying every minute of it lol@TakeAChance it's official my #1 variation to use overall (due to the meta of the game) is Ethereal now.
Although it's my personal favorite now that doesn't mean I won't use all the variations. I used all 3 at Summer Jam. Ravenous through Pools, Ethereal for most of my fights, & Piercing vs Tom Brady's Sub Zero. I will be the Mileena specialist that uses all of the character & not just a third of her.
You told me I would end up maining that variation as my number 1 & you were right.Enjoying every minute of it lol
I agree & I played with the mentality at Summer Jam & it worked wonders.I kinda believe now that all of her variations are good, and we have to use every variation against different characters. I love it. We should work on a list.
I 100% agree on that. With ethereal, I feel like I have a very fluid gameplan. If I need to play keepaway, I can. If I need to maintain some pressure, I can. If I don't know a matchup or am fighting a new opponent, it's my go-to. It is just so adaptable!You told me I would end up maining that variation as my number 1 & you were right.
I feel like I have the most freedom to play however I choose when I'm in Ethereal & I'm not forced to play a certain way.
Yep, she gains the most utility in ethereal. She always has options. Always.You told me I would end up maining that variation as my number 1 & you were right.
I feel like I have the most freedom to play however I choose when I'm in Ethereal & I'm not forced to play a certain way.
You should. I did just make Top 8 at a stacked tournament with it.Whelp, guess it's time to finally start learning about Ethereal then.
Oh, I always watch your matches, and you've impressed me enough to give it a try. You've definitely been a great representative for our Empress.You should. I did just make Top 8 at a stacked tournament with it.
To be fair, that wasn't the variation, that was your playing ability.You should. I did just make Top 8 at a stacked tournament with it.
You should link me to your summerjam matches and I will add them to the all in one guide thread.So guys while I have all this free time & will be quite active in here for awhile is there anything you wanna ask me about Mileena & the strageties that I use & implement.
Ok give a sec I'll put the ones that they have on YouTube as of now.You should link me to your summerjam matches and I will add them to the all in one guide thread.
Well, like Sunfire said, it would be nice to start compiling a list of which variations work best against the rest of the cast. I think your input would be incredibly useful.So guys while I have all this free time & will be quite active in here for awhile is there anything you wanna ask me about Mileena & the strageties that I use & implement.
Me vs Coach SteveYou should link me to your summerjam matches and I will add them to the all in one guide thread.
If you have any matchup specific tips, it would be much appreciated if you could share and I'll get them added to the Matchup guide I'm (VERY) slowly working on.So guys while I have all this free time & will be quite active in here for awhile is there anything you wanna ask me about Mileena & the strageties that I use & implement.
Indeed I will be using in my arsenal of weaponEDIT: OH. And one thing I feel we are all sleeping on! 4 being changed to 11 frames is actually going to be nice
This is good ^Stand 4 being 11 frames means we get to actually punish with it. So in Piercing you get:
4~EX TK~Sai~f2,3~Roll~Sadistics for 40%. Which is the same damage as the f1,2,b4~EX TK combo.