General/Other - Mileena The Mileena General Discussion Thread (All Variations)

[ScreamQueen]

Cheers youse guys.

 

[ExpiredCodes]

I was refreshing their Twitter account like every 5 seconds lmao.

 

[ZeroEffect]

• Mileena - Towards+FK,BK,FK can no longer for 2in1 cancelled out of and is now -9 on block (up from -19)
• Mileena - Towards+FK,BK,BK can no longer for 2in1 cancelled out of, is now -11 on block (up from -26), and is now a hard knockdown

Hmm, not sure how I feel about these yet. But you should still be able to get big damage off the f343.

Damn... no F4 or regular Fade mentions.

 

[james1926]

Disappointing.

 

[Sami]

No changes to regular fade make me sad. Can you still be thrown when holding 2 to remain ethereal?

 

[ZeroEffect]

After Listening to it again, they seemed to go out of their way to say that F3 wouldn't ever be made faster. But if the low crush works how I think it will, it's definitely not needed.

And they said her Away 1 string jails on block now, but I think they meant F1 since I don't remember there being a gap in B12. Was there one?

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

So F343 and F344 are still punisheable on block and now you can't cancel for big damage... Wow lol.

B12 and F1 being +2 is nice, so is F3 crouching lows but I really don't understand why they nerfed F343 and F344 -_- ugh

 

[Nu-Skoool]

Digging these buffs especially on piercing, having a safe f1 is awesome, so even if there's an issue with 2 whiffing still you don't have to commit to an unsafe normal.

 

[BlankLA]

What does 2in1 cancel mean?

 

[ExpiredCodes]

What does 2in1 cancel mean?

It just means you can cancel a move into another move. Like Tele-Kick into Air Sai.

 

[james1926]

As @ZeroEffect said, at what frame the invisibility on lows starts on f3 will be hella important. So lets wait till tomorrow.

 

[xWildx]

I don't understand the 2-in-1 nerf of f343 and f344. I'd really have liked an explanation. Unless they thought it crushing lows would be too significant for Mileena to be doing that much damage? For real though, it's still a 33 frame overhead, like give me a break.

 

[TheGabStandard]

If I'm reading this right I take it F343 and F344 combos are more or less dead and new ones need to be made (correct me if I'm wrong). Aside from that the rest is decent

 

[Jolt]

the f343 and f344 things look like nerfs to me, but I suppose we can still hit confirm off of f343. The strings are still punishable, but I guess "less punishable" is good....right?

 

[ExpiredCodes]

If I'm reading this right I take it F343 and F344 combos are more or less dead and new ones need to be made (correct me if I'm wrong). Aside from that the rest is decent

Pretty much. That huge damage is gone.

 

[james1926]

I don't understand the 2-in-1 nerf of f343 and f344. I'd really have liked an explanation. Unless they thought it crushing lows would be too significant for Mileena to be doing that much damage? For real though, it's still a 33 frame overhead, like give me a break.

If invisibility on lows starts early then that nerf was needed. We must wait to see before we judge this.

 

[ZeroEffect]

As @ZeroEffect said, at what frame the invisibility on lows starts on f3 will be hella important. So lets wait till tomorrow.

Well I won't be able to play with it for a while, unfortunately. But now I'm wondering about the 2-in-1 thing off F343.

If I'm reading this right I take it F343 and F344 combos are more or less dead and new ones need to be made (correct me if I'm wrong). Aside from that the rest is decent

That's what I'm wondering as well.
Will that mean you can't do F343 into Telekick~Sai on hit? Cause Derek was doing F343, waiting, and then Roll. Still decent damage for Piercing, but I wonder if the TK~Sai part is removed now.

To compensate for lack of special cancels, they made F343 safER on block, but it's likely still punishable by everyone at -9 point blank. F344 though might be ok on block at -11 since it pushes back.

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

That's so bad and so unnecessary. They really want people to commit to scrubby play with this character. I'm out.

 

[qcevolution]

Soooo in other words dont F343/4....like ever.....

 

[xWildx]

If invisibility on lows starts early then that nerf was needed. We must wait to see before we judge this.

Can't people still just d1? If anything they could have just increased the damage scaling. Again, I would've just appreciated an explanation.

 

[Afk Skinny]

This patch needs to drop asap, I'm lowkey salty reading these

 

[Jolt]

Well I won't be able to play with it for a while, unfortunately. But now I'm wondering about the 2-in-1 thing off F343. Will that mean you can't do F343 into Telekick~Sai on hit? Cause Derek was doing F343, waiting, and then Roll. Still decent damage for Piercing, but I wonder if the TK~Sai part is removed now.

To compensate for lack of special cancels, they made F343 safer on block, but probably still punishable by everyone at -9. F344 though might be ok on block at -11 since it pushes back.

It would MOST LIKELY mean no f343 TK~sai, since TK is 11 frames. MAYBE frame perfect? Maybe? Hard to tell without actually having it in hand, but we should get f343 roll, jump kick teleport sai into whatever ender will work. Not sure what the damage is, but I'm pretty sure I've connected that one before. Probably just doesn't have a good/ideal ender

 

[ZeroEffect]

Can't people still just d1? If anything they could have just increased the damage scaling. Again, I would've just appreciated an explanation.

I imagine D1s will still hit her. I will be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't.

It would MOST LIKELY mean no f343 TK~sai, since TK is 11 frames. MAYBE frame perfect? Maybe? Hard to tell without actually having it in hand, but we should get f343 roll, jump kick teleport sai into whatever ender will work. Not sure what the damage is, but I'm pretty sure I've connected that one before. Probably just doesn't have a good/ideal ender

Telekick is around 20 frames.

 

[ExpiredCodes]

If D1s don't hit her then I'll prefer it this way.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

If D1s don't hit her then I'll prefer it this way.

Most jabs will still hit her, it's not like it's harder to hit her with a S1 than with a D1.