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Tekken 8 Post-Release Discussion Thread

Vulgar

Kombatant
@LEGEND @M2Dave mannn I had some serious self-reflection today that applies to all games not just Tekken.

My bud was showing me his Wavu stats after seeing some Reddit post and we were talking about a couple of MUs (funny enough he also is Tekken God and plays Xiaoyu like me so we are legit same rank same character). I told him Steve I hate fighting that I "always lose against" whenever they appear, and he was like what are you talking about you always win against them. So after arguing I pulled up my Wavu and saw some wild stuff that I would have never thought was the case based on my bias after matches. Some MUs I never would have thought I won as much like against Steve, and I would have bet my balls I was beating Leroy garbage low tier self. Though I haven't played these last few weeks because of KOF/SF and some MK lab, in protest of Clive (lol) it is these:

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List is in order from highest rate to lowest (i.e. I have a 75.0% W rate against Reina and a 35.7% W rate against Claudio). Also saw I have 50-70% W rate on every stage in the game. This tells me a few of things. 1) seeing these W rates I need to stop always switching games and stick to one game for a while to push myself LOL 2) I remember things I don't like rather than what is actually happening 3) A majority of the characters I see more often I have the highest win rates, I am getting PWND by the MU in the majority of one's I see less of (4 out of 5 of the under 50% W rate is also bottom twelve fought characters).


@Vulgar I know you don't play Tekken but tagged because this was interesting lol.
How is this data collected?
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
On my phone right now and TYM isn't liking my screenshots.


Apparently I've only ran into Paul once in Ranked and got bopped lol.

Definitely seems like the matches I played when the game first came out weren't recorded
Nice ha I'm gonna call you the Clive destroyer. Oh busted character with absurd tools? No matter for The Legend! Yea there's a cut off but I forgot what it was, like last 6 months or something like that, I can't remember the exact running time but 6 months sounds right. Or close to it. Something in say like last March would have fallen out.

How is this data collected?
Some dude last year created some tech type script that records everyone's matches from God to Beginner ranks from the leaderboard and makes a mass file that has anyone's matches, the day and time, the set count, etc. It's pretty cool. People can even download the file if they want for their own matches. Also each month there's a "usage" article that gets posted that shows how many of each character was used by %, their win/loss, how each character did in high ranks vs mid ranks vs low, etc, so like my character wins a lot in beginner ranks when people use her, but at higher ranks doesn't win as much, things like that.
 

LEGEND

YES!
Nice ha I'm gonna call you the Clive destroyer. Oh busted character with absurd tools? No matter for The Legend! Yea there's a cut off but I forgot what it was, like last 6 months or something like that, I can't remember the exact running time but 6 months sounds right. Or close to it. Something in say like last March would have fallen out.



Some dude last year created some tech type script that records everyone's matches from God to Beginner ranks from the leaderboard and makes a mass file that has anyone's matches, the day and time, the set count, etc. It's pretty cool. People can even download the file if they want for their own matches. Also each month there's a "usage" article that gets posted that shows how many of each character was used by %, their win/loss, how each character did in high ranks vs mid ranks vs low, etc, so like my character wins a lot in beginner ranks when people use her, but at higher ranks doesn't win as much, things like that.
Clive was so prevalent I was forced to learn the matchup. Luckily no good player uses Clive, at these ranks anyway.

I've maybe only seen one Clive post-nerf and they didn't even bother throwing out F1+2. Needless to say they got folded.
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
Nice ha I'm gonna call you the Clive destroyer. Oh busted character with absurd tools? No matter for The Legend! Yea there's a cut off but I forgot what it was, like last 6 months or something like that, I can't remember the exact running time but 6 months sounds right. Or close to it. Something in say like last March would have fallen out.



Some dude last year created some tech type script that records everyone's matches from God to Beginner ranks from the leaderboard and makes a mass file that has anyone's matches, the day and time, the set count, etc. It's pretty cool. People can even download the file if they want for their own matches. Also each month there's a "usage" article that gets posted that shows how many of each character was used by %, their win/loss, how each character did in high ranks vs mid ranks vs low, etc, so like my character wins a lot in beginner ranks when people use her, but at higher ranks doesn't win as much, things like that.
Damn bruh we need that.
 

Amplified$hotz

I like Tekken 8
Something funny about the Tekken community is that they’re elitist (not necessarily in a bad way) about the game. Many only play tekken. And don’t want much to do with any other fighting games. Especially other 3d fighters like Virtua Fighter or DOA.

Yet when you play tekken with them, everyone craps on the game. Honestly Tekken players bond over criticizing the game more than they bond over talking about how good the game is :laughing:

Even me and my training partner talk about how ass Tekken 8 is, yet we play consistently and compete when we can.
 

LEGEND

YES!
Something funny about the Tekken community is that they’re elitist (not necessarily in a bad way) about the game. Many only play tekken. And don’t want much to do with any other fighting games. Especially other 3d fighters like Virtua Fighter or DOA.

Yet when you play tekken with them, everyone craps on the game. Honestly Tekken players bond over criticizing the game more than they bond over talking about how good the game is :laughing:

Even me and my training partner talk about how ass Tekken 8 is, yet we play consistently and compete when we can.
It's always funny to me when Tekken players complain about Tekken 8's "lack of defensive options". Immediately outed as a Tekken only player, no perspective.
 

LEGEND

YES!
made it to Raijin with Leo.

Now I'm really starting to see the knowledge check flowchart styles and it is rough out here. These players have probably been hard stuck in Blue for the whole year with 45 defense, never learning the game.
 

ImpostorOak

Goro is a Pokémon
made it to Raijin with Leo.

Now I'm really starting to see the knowledge check flowchart styles and it is rough out here. These players have probably been hard stuck in Blue for the whole year with 45 defense, never learning the game.
I've been balls deep in SF6. Might have to hop back over to T8. I haven't played a single game since Clive came out, still.
 

LEGEND

YES!
I've been balls deep in SF6. Might have to hop back over to T8. I haven't played a single game since Clive came out, still.
I'm still having a blast with it. There should be a large update in the next couple months that'll add new moves and balance changes for every character too.

Luckily Clive is much less common now as well. He's a very simple character too so the matchup is probably the easiest to learn in the whole game.
 

ImpostorOak

Goro is a Pokémon
I'm still having a blast with it. There should be a large update in the next couple months that'll add new moves and balance changes for every character too.

Luckily Clive is much less common now as well. He's a very simple character too so the matchup is probably the easiest to learn in the whole game.
I didn't stop playing because of Clive or anything, just coincidence that I stopped around that time. What really happened is I planned to play both, but I SUCKED at SF. Bad. Like I couldn't do the specials consistently. So I started practicing and I joined a discord and 2 months later I feel like a full blown Street Fighter. Haha.

I want to grind Tekken some more, now. The only real gripe I had with the game at all is that I typically prefer 2D fighters.

Also, Tekken takes away my biggest strength, anti airs. Haha.
 

LEGEND

YES!
I didn't stop playing because of Clive or anything, just coincidence that I stopped around that time. What really happened is I planned to play both, but I SUCKED at SF. Bad. Like I couldn't do the specials consistently. So I started practicing and I joined a discord and 2 months later I feel like a full blown Street Fighter. Haha.

I want to grind Tekken some more, now. The only real gripe I had with the game at all is that I typically prefer 2D fighters.

Also, Tekken takes away my biggest strength, anti airs. Haha.
Often times Tekken doesn't even feel like a Fighting Game tbh haha. But when it does the game is crack

I was in your shoes around sometime in 2017 when I started grinding with Alex then Sakura whenever she came out. Been wanting to get back into SF but 6 rubs me the wrong way and I'm not interested in anyone on the roster.
 

ImpostorOak

Goro is a Pokémon
Often times Tekken doesn't even feel like a Fighting Game tbh haha. But when it does the game is crack

I was in your shoes around sometime in 2017 when I started grinding with Alex then Sakura whenever she came out. Been wanting to get back into SF but 6 rubs me the wrong way and I'm not interested in anyone on the roster.
Will definitely get back into it soon, I wanna learn Panda because my Fiance, who never gives a shit about Fighting Games, says that's her favorite character in any game.

See, fortunately for me, I like big butt's and I must be honest about it. So, I'm a Cammy main for life. Alex would be an insta pick up for me, tho. I've been watching the older games and him and Rainbow Mika and El Fuerte are my biggest hopes for DLC
 

LEGEND

YES!
Will definitely get back into it soon, I wanna learn Panda because my Fiance, who never gives a shit about Fighting Games, says that's her favorite character in any game.

See, fortunately for me, I like big butt's and I must be honest about it. So, I'm a Cammy main for life. Alex would be an insta pick up for me, tho. I've been watching the older games and him and Rainbow Mika and El Fuerte are my biggest hopes for DLC
Bears are fun. Panda is infinitely less bullshit than Kuma thanks to the Heat difference but She's still solid. Only reason people place her as Bottom 1 is because she's redundant. If I ever get fed up dealing with mashing monkey's Kuma is my go-too, having such good wiff punishment and "Fuck You" buttons feels great.
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I'd trade the entire SF6 roster for those three
 

ImpostorOak

Goro is a Pokémon
Bears are fun. Panda is infinitely less bullshit than Kuma thanks to the Heat difference but She's still solid. Only reason people place her as Bottom 1 is because she's redundant. If I ever get fed up dealing with mashing monkey's Kuma is my go-too, having such good wiff punishment and "Fuck You" buttons feels great.
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I'd trade the entire SF6 roster for those three
Tell me you're another pro wrestling fan? Haha. I would play gief but he's too far on the big body side for my taste, tbh.

I don't care about tier placement for a character like Panda. That's a 100% fuck around character for sure. I'm gonna stick to Law as my main unless they put Kunimitsu in Season/Year 2.
 

LEGEND

YES!
Tell me you're another pro wrestling fan? Haha. I would play gief but he's too far on the big body side for my taste, tbh.

I don't care about tier placement for a character like Panda. That's a 100% fuck around character for sure. I'm gonna stick to Law as my main unless they put Kunimitsu in Season/Year 2.
Its funny cause I've never closely followed pro wrestling. The aesthetic and personality naturally appeal to me I guess. The only wrestling thing I'm a fan of is Macho Man and that just because he's hilarious.
 

ImpostorOak

Goro is a Pokémon
Its funny cause I've never closely followed pro wrestling. The aesthetic and personality naturally appeal to me I guess. The only wrestling thing I'm a fan of is Macho Man and that just because he's hilarious.
Fsir enough. Macho Man is in my top 5 all time, tho, and also because he's hilarious.