General/Other - Tanya Tanya SHOULD be normalized.

[Zoidberg747]

you can cancel it into a special when first hit hits.

Except if that special is EX Tonfa Toss, which also randomly whiffs

Wouldn't it be ok if they only reduce her meter building and see if that is enough? I feel a big problem with her is that she makes a lot of meter while running away, so by the time she is caught she can do breaker or EN teleport to break pressure and start her own. And this is even worst in pyromancer. If she built less meter she would have to be more careful by not always having breaker, would be more susceptible to pressure, and would have a harder time creating hers.
Considering she is still quite new, I feel not nerfing her tools, but rather how much she can use them could be a good way to go. There is always room for more later, if needed.

She builds barely any meter other than in Pyromancer, which makes sense since zoners always build meter. She needs meter for a majority of her offense so nerfing her meter build would absolutely kill her.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

Except if that special is EX Tonfa Toss, which also randomly whiffs

Lol stop

 

[Magnum Magpie]

Buffs Needed.

 

[chrisisnice]

why make another character with shitty teleports? maybe better buff displacer and ethereal?

This is exactly what I mean... Raiden and Mileena's teleport should be buffed rather than nerfing Tanya's teleport (ex needs fixing).

 

[SirVigorous]

Nerf M2Dave's ability to start threads. He doesn't like the game. He likes to zone which he can't in this game and he's butthurt about it. These M2Dave threads are giant concern trolls. "Oh I'm a Tanya man and even I want nerfs for Tanya." He's not a Tanya main, he's not an anyone main, he hates the game. He doesn't care, he just want's people to be as upset as he is about the game and sow discontent.

Tanya is easily knocked out the air, don't be confused because MIT and Sonic Fox are playing her, all other Tanya's routinely get bodied.

 

[Rude]

Nerf M2Dave's ability to start threads. He doesn't like the game. He likes to zone which he can't in this game and he's butthurt about it. These M2Dave threads are giant concern trolls. "Oh I'm a Tanya man and even I want nerfs for Tanya." He's not a Tanya main, he's not an anyone main, he hates the game. He doesn't care, he just want's people to be as upset as he is about the game and sow discontent.

Tanya is easily knocked out the air, don't be confused because MIT and Sonic Fox are playing her, all other Tanya's routinely get bodied.

Evidence? All other Tanyas? I don't think so.

And who are you to comment on who Dave plays as?

Do you play him offline regularly, or are you just shit talking because he's supporting an opinion you don't agree with?

 

[StormGoddess]

next week's SALT report thread topic #2

 

[Rude]

Tanya might need some adjustments. I certainly wouldn't know what they are.

That said, they shouldn't nerf her mobility too hard. The whole idea is that she's an anti-footsies meta breaker that uses her mobility to overwhelm opponents.

A lot like MK9 Kung Lao, actually.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

This is exactly what I mean... Raiden and Mileena's teleport should be buffed rather than nerfing Tanya's teleport (ex needs fixing).

No... not unless you plan on giving Goro and Fera/Torr air dashes and armored runs...

 

[Konqrr]

This is bad. I get blown up if I don't use teleports correctly, even on wakeup. More startup? Say goodbye to DN. EX Teleport -5 on block? You will trade with or straight out eat an uppercut every time.

The only thing I'd change is more frames on startup before invincibility kicks in. That's it.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

This is bad. I get blown up if I don't use teleports correctly, even on wakeup. More startup? Say goodbye to DN. EX Teleport -5 on block? You will trade with or straight out eat an uppercut every time.

The only thing I'd change is more frames on startup before invincibility kicks in. That's it.

thank you, a man with good reasoning.

 

[Deleted member 9158]

They need to normalize pyromancer because the fire ball damage is inconsistent. Sometimes it does like 12% and other times like 20% what gives?

 

[SirVigorous]

Evidence? All other Tanyas? I don't think so.

And who are you to comment on who Dave plays as?

Do you play him offline regularly, or are you just shit talking because he's supporting an opinion you don't agree with?

I say that because Tanya is not a zoner and M2Dave says he likes to zone. It'd be strange for that to be his character. Even given that you're right, I shouldn't comment on who he plays.

However, Why are we discussing nerfing a move that is punishable on reaction and does no damage. A nerf that would break Dragon Naginata. (Which is coincidentally the variation that can stand on the pole and laugh at people throwing fireballs trying to zone her)

Look at the poll itself, it's troll a poll. There's no way to vote "don't change". That option is lumped in with "too many" which implies that some changes should happen.

Maybe it's me, but this just doesn't feel like an honest proposal from someone concerned about the state of the game. He's trying to lower the power level of all the top characters to make zoning and defensive play viable.

 

[TKB]

Lol. The last time we played I really abused shroud. I believe your exact words were, "Fuck man! I cant even move!"

Lol I have to mash 112 after I block shroud to catch you pushing buttons and even then there's the threat of armored shroud.

 

[ragnar0kz28]

Still salty?

nop why? u won because its harder to punish stuff online and luck favored you its all ok.

 

[ragnar0kz28]

They need to normalize pyromancer because the fire ball damage is inconsistent. Sometimes it does like 12% and other times like 20% what gives?

Pyromancer is fine if you get hit with the purple dust it works like fuel on the body, fire will make you explode, thats why you take more damage, people allways get scared when they are covered in purple dust even a blocked fireball does 6 dmg, they start to jump and do weird stuff till they eventually eat a fireball

 

[THTB]

Test b+3,1,2 in the corner and see whether you can interrupt with d+3 consistently.

The answer for Quan poking out of this isn't d3. Try 21.

 

[SaltShaker]

I say that because Tanya is not a zoner and M2Dave says he likes to zone. It'd be strange for that to be his character.

He's trying to lower the power level of all the top characters to make zoning and defensive play viable.

He likes to zone which he can't in this game and he's butthurt about it. These M2Dave threads are giant concern trolls. "Oh I'm a Tanya man and even I want nerfs for Tanya." He's not a Tanya main, he's not an anyone main, he hates the game.

But, but, but, Pyro Tanya has excellent zoning/defense, and he is playing Tanya. Do you even know what you're talking about?

 

[MK Peanuts]

Ugh you people need to be more educated, you're all Jon Snows.

Tanya is already getting "fixed". Just waiting for the upcoming patch:

Thanks for reposting this, I hadn't seen it. More than reasonable imo, if it were me I would have made it so she can't do anything until she touches the ground if EX teleport is blocked.

 

[bloodsport]

Not a conspiracy, more like common sense.

yeah, dude! it's an inside job!

remember lobo, or goro, or rain, or jason?! they were so fucking godlike it was ridiculous, the amount of market demand for them was insane. i'm glad they were OP as fuck and day 1 top 5 to capitalize on sales, man!

 

[TheIrishFGCguy]

yeah, dude! it's an inside job!

remember lobo, or goro, or rain, or jason?! they were so fucking godlike it was ridiculous, the amount of market demand for them was insane. i'm glad they were OP as fuck and day 1 top 5 to capitalize on sales, man!

Stop making yourself look stupid.

 

[Pan1cMode]

yeah, dude! it's an inside job!

remember lobo, or goro, or rain, or jason?! they were so fucking godlike it was ridiculous, the amount of market demand for them was insane. i'm glad they were OP as fuck and day 1 top 5 to capitalize on sales, man!

Yeah like Kenshi, Scarlet, Batgirl, Scorpion, Martian and Zod weren't OP on release.

You're sounding really ignorant. It's a wise business decision to have interesting/strong characters as DLC. This often means giving them lots of tools which can make them strong/OP.

 

[TheIrishFGCguy]

Yeah like Kenshi, Scarlet, Batgirl, Scorpion, Martian and Zod weren't OP on release.

You're sounding really ignorant. It's a wise business decision to have interesting/strong characters as DLC. This often means giving them lots of tools which can make them strong/OP.

Thank you. Not sure how anyone could argue against that because it's common sense. Make your characters really good and people will want to buy them. Don't forget Freddy though, he was S tier too.

MK9 had 4 DLC characters, 3 of which were S tier at release. (Scarlett, Kenshi, Freddy)
Injustice had 6 DLC characters, 4 of which were S tier at release. (Batgirl, Scoprion, Zod, MM)
So far in MKX we have 2 DLC characters with one of them being S tier (Tanya obviously). I'm not counting Goro because he was a pre-order bonus and available at MKX's launch.

So in total out of 12 DLC characters who appeared after release, 8 have been godlike. That guy needs to brush up on his NRS knowledge. lol

 

[Tom Brady]

Tanya seriously needs the backwards normal teleport to require stamina. It's ONE frame and has invincible frames as well. It needs to require 1 bar of stamina.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Tanya seriously needs the backwards normal teleport to require stamina. It's ONE frame and has invincible frames as well. It needs to require 1 bar of stamina.

I think each ice clone should use 1 bar of stamina.