Super Smash Bros Discussion!

[RM Truth]

I'm not satisfied unless they give me back my climbers... or Ganon.

I want the Ganondorf from Ocarina of Time back or the new design from Hyrule Warriors. Also, need to rework his animations. He felt super clunky in Brawl.

 

[Peckapowa]

smash 64 was my game bras... got that short hop r cancel down... pikachu is wehre it is at.... but i played everyone

 

[Doombawkz]

I want the Ganondorf from Ocarina of Time back or the new design from Hyrule Warriors. Also, need to rework his animations. He felt super clunky in Brawl.

I want him to use his damn sword

 

[ScorpionRules!!!92]

I'm sorry if I already said or stated this in the thread but i'm going to get the 3DS version for Christmas.

 

[Gurpwnder]

Hope he gets nerfed to hell.

He can't glide naturally, or with his up B. That's pretty severe for him.

 

[PPJ]

winter pls come faster :<

 

[NoobHunter420]

Smash best fighting game ever l0ls
The only game that has any chance to get the FGC out of the poverty

 

[Fromundaman]

By the way, this new smash is looking amazing. The demo is hella fun, and I like that they seem to have buffed some of the consistent low tier characters from previous games (Mario and Link) to make them competitive. Maybe this time around the game will be a bit more balanced?

Also Megaman is really, REALLY different from any character they've made before, but he seems interesting and has a lot of potential. I'm liking him a lot right now.

 

[Mst]

Yo i really wanna play the beta but i didnt have the Promotion Mail setting set or whatever it was and did not get a invite really sucks. But from what i have seen on streams it looks good. And this time they might even release a few balance patches if needed.

 

[Konqrr]

I respect those who can play this game (this series)... I love fighting games and Nintendo, but I can't stand these games and couldn't even get halfway through the Final Smash video on YouTube.

 

[TheLastWingman]

Never played any of the smash series but going to buy Smash 4 (on 3ds) which looks really fun, just wondering if I get really into it and decide to play it competitively will it be better to buy a Wii U or is there no difference from just playing on the 3Ds????

 

[Law Hero]

Dame shame almost all of the Smash attacks are identical to one another.

Most of them are just big projectiles, omnislashes, or temporary transformations. Really disappointing since I was hoping for some revamped smashes, especially from all of the clones.

 

[pogse]

been watching all day yesterday, zeros stream mostly. they got the netcode right .
its entertaining to watch at 2 stocks(on the 3ds).

 

[PPJ]

custom moves look hella fun and interesting, alot are in favor in not banning them for tourney play

 

[Cabronium]

custom moves look hella fun and interesting, alot are in favor in not banning them for tourney play

I haven't been catching up with the new info this week. Link me! Do you play project M?

 

[Mikemetroid]

Definitely maining Duck Hunt along side C. Falcon, Luigi, and Samus.

Also 3ds version looks and feels great. Cant wait to change my controls though cause tap jump fucking blows cock.

 

[Mikemetroid]

Administrators and moderators, why is this game in Fighter's Depot? I am just curious.

Because its a fighting game, this is the second time you said this in this very thread.

 

[DarthArma]

Can't wait to main kirby!

In all seriousness im psyched to play the new smash

 

[Mikemetroid]

Can't wait to main kirby!

In all seriousness im psyched to play the new smash

I know your bro is super psyched, do you have your own 3ds?

 

[CrimsonShadow]

I've created a new forum for Smash discussion: http://testyourmight.com/forums/super-smash-bros.414/

And moved this thread there. We can stick all future smash topics and threads here. We'll see if it gets enough discussion to warrant keeping its own subforum, but there's a home for it for now

 

[PPJ]

I haven't been catching up with the new info this week. Link me! Do you play project M?

too much info! just search neogaf/smashboards/gamefaqs/reddit
nah i don't play PM

 

[PPJ]

some competitive streams to watch in the meantime of the full japanese 3ds version
zero
vgbootcamp
shofu
fow
nakat
tourney footage from yesterday
also a casual stream focused on unlocking content

 

[shaowebb]

Been watching this heavily. Here are my thoughts.

1. New Air dodge system changes everything and its pretty wild. You can no longer air dash out of hit stun, but you can now use 3 air dashes. This changes a LOT of the air game. I'm currently trying to find out if you only get one air dodge in any direction or not, because I need to know how this affects recovery.
2. Walk speed and running attacks got mad buffed. Everyone moves faster and a lot of moves have been changed to have less cooldown allowing more followups and combo links than before. Some moves have been repurposed to allow for more of this in particular....example: Ganondorf's running shoulder used to smash folks. Now it pops them up above him. His air moves were given more priority and he has less startup. Essentially they gave him a stronger air game and a runup starter with this buff. Other folks like Link can react immediately after throws and some can jump cancel out of hitstun.
3. Noticeably better cast. Jigglypuff, Bowser, Yoshi, Lucario, Mario, Link, Samus, Peach. The buffs to moves, priorities, and knockback are just through the roof on these folks. They are MUCH better than before.
4. Rosalina holds potential to be top tier. Her space control is insane. On small stages she can pretty well hold you at one corner while chillin at the other corner. Good luck getting back on the stage too. She is scary as hell and even her mobility is great. Her backdash is especially great.
5. Shulk side B beats out Little Mac's Side B....WTF!? Shulk got mad priority.
6. Two characters who are fun, but hard to win with because by God they just don't have enough kill moves with knock back. Pacman and Greninja. Greninja is especially low on kill moves. Pacman's hydrant when hit may be one but no one hits it yet. EDIT: Confirmed...its a kill move like I thought but its damned hard to kick a hydrant and not whif.
7. Falco feels worse from all opinions. A BIG change is that shine no longer has knockback. It had fixed in melee making shine out of shield, shine spiking and shine dashing godly. It had variable knockback in brawl...none in this one. Changes a LOT of the meta which is currently a lot of running attack setups. Oh and Falco's laser is like SUPER SLOW. Its a wider beam, but you can watch it trail out there forever. Its nothing like what it was. Its like PK Thunder slow...
8. Wavedashing is out. L Canceling is out. You can dash dance, and even though L Canceling is out you recover so god damned fast from landing now its not an issue to worry over much.
9. Edge canceling is in and its huge. Basically if you press toward an edge like you wish to drop off of it during any horizontally dashing move you can cancel out of the moves recovery and often times cancel move startup. For example, Peach can nearly instantly pluck veggies this way. Since her booty got faster this means is she whifs the old "ha CHA!" she can cancel into veggies in theory.
10. You can shield cancel out of run but no you can't use this to block dash or wave dash.
11. Love him or hate him Duck Hunt Dog is fucking good. His recovery is really great with the duck flight and his damage/knockback/spacing is great with clayshot discs and the can that he kicks around. He's overall a great dude.
12. Dark Pitt seems like a worse version of Pitt from all acounts. On the fence with this one...he's super unexplored.
13. Custom moves are fun, but nothing OP. Cool stuff is in there though...Ganondorf has a sword on his backfist in there...
14. The Mii's can't be used online and be glad...they are fucking OP.
15. Online has no input lag and good matchmaking. Instead of lagging inputs the game will just plain stop and once the connection stabilizes the match resumes. Its a little jarring at times but as fast as smash is this is FAR better than imagined. Matches are really amazing considering they are coming from japan to the states. Likely we will see some great connectivity in the states.
    
16. Sheik is fucking great. No complaints and all smiles.
17. Falcon Knee is powerful, but it seems like it has more cooldown. Not certain.
    
18. Master Core 9.0 will fuck your life son
19. Charizard Rock Smash has complete invincibility and hits like a truck. Abuse the shit out of it.
20. Little Mac is super popular. He's really really great on the ground, but folks are learning to just use throws and turn his whole match into him trying to use air dodges to land or get back on the stage. He has a KO punch because he needs it. Solid mid tier who could be deadly in the right hands. Really fun to watch.
21. Megaman takes some learning, but he's good. His mobility is very very good for his playstyle and if you like runnin and gunnin like its a Megaman Boss fight you will love him.
22. Ness' moves got a lot of nerf to them except the PK Thunder which seems much better. Some claim he's worse, others claim he's better...mileage may vary. It depends on what you used the most. PK Fire certainly has more cooldown though and the other PK moves have a lot too.
    
23. Robin is pretty defensive. He's good, but you got to time your stuff or you run outta juice with him. Great all arounder.
24. There is an 8 bit alien ship. It may be Galaga or something...if it appears RUN FROM IT. It has a tracter beam that grabs you and flies you off the stage to KO you. Its harsh.

 

[shaowebb]

smash 64 was my game bras... got that short hop r cancel down... pikachu is wehre it is at.... but i played everyone

Oh I almost forgot. Short Hop into fast fall is in, but since no L Canceling you can't use the SHFFL or "Shuffle" tactics of melee of course.
Oh and Pikachu is really good. Feels faster. I think Quick Attack is a little different though. Seems stricter to recover. Lots of folks goin around the table on top tiers and I see Pikachu crop up in about half of them so at least you know where ever the tiers go eventually that the guy is at least good and serviceable.

 

[MrSunshine]

YALL BETTA WATCH OUT