Stop overrating MK9's Balance, Injustice is better

[A F0xy Grampa]

I'm talking about the broader implications REO outlined in the OP, balance is part of it, but injustice has bigger problems than that right now. Also, bad arguments for balance ought to be shown as such so that people dont buy into them. though most of the people here are borderline retarded, so *shrug* i guess i'm fighting a losing battle because everyone applauds stupidity and rejects logic.

Stupidity is giving characters options that beat out all defensive options bar armour, which even then can be beaten out.
Logic is giving characters more than 4 universal defensive options (count 9 that EVERYBODY has) and therefore allowing other characters to show off their shit.

 

[G4S KT]

Threads like this would be more constructive if the NRS community branched out and learned other games.

 

[peachyO]

it's still early, but i feel injustice is far more balanced. that being said, i think MK is the better game in terms of mechanics. MK could have been perfect, if only more attention and thought had gone in to balancing the characters better. and if the glitches and netcode were fixed. a tall order, but MK had the fundamental framework and all the raw materials in place. maybe if NRS had delayed production of injustice a bit to iron out MK's wrinkles...

 

[THTB]

Threads like this would be more constructive if the NRS community branched out and learned other games.

This is another problem for another day.

 

[AssassiN]

I like how people say "one more patch for MK9", wouldn't fix the issues that most people have with MK9.
MK9 is more fun for me to play, but I prefer Injustice because the issues aren't there that bothered me in MK9.

 

[ceemurda]

this game is far from unbalanced.. Alot of characters have some dumb shyt but other characters havent been explored fully yet either but I cant get over my favorite character cyborg being s tier thats just bullshyt using sam l jackson voice.. He is going to nerfed and be more worthless and more underplayed

While green lantern players will continue spammin lantern up and getting combos.... Watch

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[MKF30]

This entire topic is pure opinion. No fighting game is perfectly balanced...only playable or not playable, MK9 and Injustice are both playable. I don't like comparing them honestly because both are different, both have their pros and cons like any other fighter. That being said, neither game is "unbalanced" nor "perfectly balanced" they're both solid games and balanced enough to play. Period

Of course again no matter what the game, you'll always find someone going after "top tiers" only because it increases their chances of winning. Some players just use their favorite characters however regardless of tier placement. Whoever wins Evo Injustice, I bet will NOT win with a mid tier or low tier character but an S tier or (A+ minimum).

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Whoever wins Evo Injustice, I bet will NOT win with a mid tier or low tier character but an S tier or (A+ minimum).

Right now I'm not sure everyone knows exactly who the mid tier and top tier characters actually are. There's a general idea, but stuff is changing every week. First I hear about Hawkgirl being dead last, now I hear about hawkgirl blowing people up.

It's probably safer to say that whoever wins EVO will be a talented player.

 

[Qwark28]

I'm talking about the broader implications REO outlined in the OP, balance is part of it, but injustice has bigger problems than that right now. Also, bad arguments for balance ought to be shown as such so that people dont buy into them. though most of the people here are borderline retarded, so *shrug* i guess i'm fighting a losing battle because everyone applauds stupidity and rejects logic.

the opposite, people aplaud logic and reject stupidity.

 

[haketh]

To bad thiers tons of the latter and little of the former on both sides.

 

[Qwark28]

I'm talking about the broader implications REO outlined in the OP, balance is part of it, but injustice has bigger problems than that right now. Also, bad arguments for balance ought to be shown as such so that people dont buy into them. though most of the people here are borderline retarded, so *shrug* i guess i'm fighting a losing battle because everyone applauds stupidity and rejects logic.

I like it that you call most of the people here retarded and that you're losing an arguement with foxy because people applaud stupidity while you're apparently the only one who speaks the truth.

We don't need this kind of attitude on TYM and you're not going to act like a stuck up asshole anymore.

 

[MKF30]

Right now I'm not sure everyone knows exactly who the mid tier and top tier characters actually are. There's a general idea, but stuff is changing every week. First I hear about Hawkgirl being dead last, now I hear about hawkgirl blowing people up.

It's probably safer to say that whoever wins EVO will be a talented player.

Well, as a HG player no way in hell is she last lol. I blow up people constantly online far higher points, levels and more wins them me who use DS, DD, Superman characters that are a bitch to deal with let's just say. HG is vastly underrated, point being.

Of course the tier list will keep changing between future patches, DLC etc, etc but just saying I don't think Evo will be won by a lower tier or let's just say lesser used character....I'd love to see it but will not happen. I hope I'm wrong but we saw this with MK via K tier...KL, Kabal or Kenshi winning most of the bigger tournaments or if not winning going very deep with them.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

MKF30 Yeah, but Kabal wasn't considered to be S tier one month in -- that happened later on. It also took some time for people to acknowledge how dominant Kenshi really is. Sometimes it takes people to get blown up by a good player of a character they weren't expecting to really start recognizing and admitting their potential.

 

[coolwhip]

I wish I had a dollar for every time DJ L Toro made me think I was in freshman English class by discussing different logical fallacies.

 

[haketh]

We don't need this kind of attitude on TYM and you're not going to act like a stuck up asshole anymore.

Then get on people on both sides of the argument, Toro is acting like a cunt but so are tons of people on your side.

 

[DJ L Toro]

I like it that you call most of the people here retarded and that you're losing an arguement with foxy because people applaud stupidity while you're apparently the only one who speaks the truth.

We don't need this kind of attitude on TYM and you're not going to act like a stuck up asshole anymore.

I didnt say i'm the only one speaking the truth. I've made a lot of concessions on here, but most people miss that because people who dont understand how conversation works think it's all or nothing.
You're reading what i'm writing as a stuck up asshole while i'm writing it matter-of-factly, which are very different tones with very different implications. At that point your hatred of me (probably too strong of a word, but that's what's conveyed) is entirely self-caused. In a word, you are projecting the ass hole you want to be angry at.

 

[Qwark28]

Then get on people on both sides of the argument, Toro is acting like a cunt but so are tons of people on your side.

Acting like an idiot is allowed, openly insulting people's inteligence when your arguements suck isn't.

 

[haketh]

Then get on everyone else.

 

[coolwhip]

I didnt say i'm the only one speaking the truth. I've made a lot of concessions on here, but most people miss that because people who dont understand how conversation works think it's all or nothing.
.

I'm pretty sure referring to "most people here" as retards is not how conversation works.

 

[Vagrant]

Acting like an idiot is allowed,

The problem with TYM

 

[Qwark28]

I didnt say i'm the only one speaking the truth. I've made a lot of concessions on here, but most people miss that because people who dont understand how conversation works think it's all or nothing.
You're reading what i'm writing as a stuck up asshole while i'm writing it matter-of-factly, which are very different tones with very different implications. At that point your hatred of me (probably too strong of a word, but that's what's conveyed) is entirely self-caused. In a word, you are projecting the ass hole you want to be angry at.

Unfortunately for you, I'm a psychology major.

Nah.

 

[haketh]

The problem with TYM

Yeah shits gotten worse since IGAUS came out

 

[MKF30]

@ Vagrant, I'd say more like the problem with the internet

MKF30 Yeah, but Kabal wasn't considered to be S tier one month in -- that happened later on. It also took some time for people to acknowledge how dominant Kenshi really is. Sometimes it takes people to get blown up by a good player of a character they weren't expecting to really start recognizing and admitting their potential.

i'm saying generally speaking Kabal was used a lot, despite first month or not. Kenshi I do think at times was a tad overrated, but definitely NOT Kabal or KL...

Honestly, I think most high level players offline, online and at tourneys are all talented players. Especially those who don't rely on top tiers to win or get known.

 

[DJ L Toro]

Unfortunately for you, I'm a psychology major.

Why's that unfortunate for me? that just means you should understand what you are doing. Humans cannot help but read a voice into what someone else writes. the problem is that you have no idea what my voice is, so you're assuming i'm a dick.

I'm pretty sure referring to "most people here" as retards is not how conversation works.

most people here (testyourmight) is not the same as most people in the community. i am willing to defend that most people here are completely inept. I am not having a conversation with those people.

 

[Qwark28]

Why's that unfortunate for me? that just means you should understand what you are doing. Humans cannot help but read a voice into what someone else writes. the problem is that you have no idea what my voice is, so you're assuming i'm a dick.


most people here (testyourmight) is not the same as most people in the community. i am willing to defend that most people here are completely inept. I am not having a conversation with those people.

It's unfortunate because your BS psychology facts you read online are easy to blow up.

This conversation is over, don't let me catch you calling people retards or stupid when they're having a polite conversation with you.