Tech Sonya OTG (Double Kiss & Breaker Combos)

[GGA soonk]

So I'm looking at Sonya frame data, and can somebody explain to me why the following is not an infinite on hit?

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21~ms~jump forward instant divekick~21~ms~jump forward instant divekick, etc. etc.

Sonya's 21 string gives +23 cancel advantage on hit. MS has an execution of 10 frames (should be cancellable on that 10th frame?), and instant divekick takes 11 frames when you account for the jump and perfect execution... giving a 3 frame window for the divekick to hit. Divekick gives enough advantage on hit for another 21.... what am I missing here? I refuse to believe that I've discovered an infinite in less than 5 minutes of studying her frame data, lol

l2frame data, scrub. 10 is execution, 21 is minimum duration. there's no infinite here. moron. you're a mod?

 

[sub_on_dubs]

This dude is a genius. So much creativity and swag.

 

[x18x2xwildx]

LMAO

 

[Justice]

Some of these combos are very difficult to do, I want only to show the combo possibilities and highest damage possible with OTG. Dive kick after breaker is really complicated, the most effective in that case is: standing 4~cartwheel, or 4~MS variants.

Sonya is undoubtedly the most benefited with OTG breaker, the reason is the possibility to cause great damage and ease of connecting standing 4, or 4~MS for additional chip damage on midscreen or corner.

- Idea of dive kick after double kiss: WLK_EdwarD
- Combo configuration and OTG breaker by me

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Good stuff man! I know what I'm gonna be in the lab with for the next mnonth or 6

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

It used to be an infinite but is not anymore.

After Wonder_Chef posted new bnb combos for her way back last year, I saw that his setup was an infinite and told NRS about it. This was corrected.

Haha I remember when d4 ms was a block/hit infinite too. Also 4 xx MS > Dive Kick on hit.

wasn't 21 xx MS > Dash repeat a block infinite if you could jail them standing?


I remember very well at PDP I was practicing new BnB's for her (real ones) and Tom Brady walks up to me and says "Chef! Chef! What are you doing!? This character has INFINITES!" haha

 

[Axel_Redd]

this doesnt change much for the sonya matchup right?

 

[DoctrineDark]

can the otg after the breaker be blocked?


also whats the best way to deal with such things?

For all OTG breaker is the same rule, are blockable, is the best you can do against that, just block.

 

[Axel_Redd]

For all OTG breaker is the same rule, are blockable, is the best you can do against that, just block.

wakeup?

 

[RTM2004]

MSF1~Leg Grab is super sexy!

What ever happened to Sonya's iconic Leg Grab move in the previous MK games?

 

[WLK_EdwarD]

brooo están geniales los combos hay que seguir sacando cosas, yo la semana que viene comenzaré a preparar otro combo video, por si me puedes ayudar en algo jaja, un abrazo wn!

 

[Justice]

I hope noone minds but I notated the kombos in this vid as part of my training and thought I should post them for others to see. Also, if @DoctrineDark could verify my transcriptions for accuracy, I'd really appreciate it. Well, on to the show The kombos are listed in the order they appear in the vid for easy reference.

Kiss > JIP > B21F2 > NJP > Kiss > D4 (23%)
Kiss > JIP > B21 >Kartwheel > B21 > Kiss > MS B4 (corner, 29%)

vs. Smoke Tele
Kiss > JIP > B21F2 > NJP > Kiss > Ia DK > 21 > Kartwheel > 21 > MS F1 xx Leg Grab (40%)
Kiss > JIP > B21F2 > NJP > Dash xx IaDK >21 > Kartwheel > B21F2 > 112 xx MS F1 xx Kartwheel (42%)

Anti-Air
Kiss > JIP > B21F2 > NJP > Kiss > Dash xx IaDK > 21 > Kartwheel > 21 > MS F1 xx Leg Grab (52%)
Kiss > JIP > B21F2 > NJP > Kiss > Dash xx IaDK > 21 > Kartwheel > B21F2 > 112 xx MS F1 xx Kartwheel (51%)
Kiss > JIP > F22 xx MS xx IaDK > 21 > Kartwheel > B21 > Kiss > 312 > Leg Grab (53%)

Breaker Counter
Breaker> Dash > 4 xx Kartwheel > > MS B2 > B21F2 . 112 xx MS F1 xx Kartwheel (33%)
Breaker > Dash xx IaDK > 21 > Kartwheel > MS B2 > B21 > MS F1 xx Leg Grab (43%)
Breaker > Dash xx IaDK > 21 > Kartwheel > B21 > Kiss > F22 > xx MS xx IaDK >31 xx MS F1 xx Leg Grab (corner, 51%)

Once again, thanks for this awesome vid @DoctrineDark. If there is a problem with me posting this, let me know and I'll remove it.

 

[Chaosphere]

Some of these combos are very difficult to do, I want only to show the combo possibilities and highest damage possible with OTG. Dive kick after breaker is really complicated, the most effective in that case is: standing 4~cartwheel, or 4~MS variants.

Sonya is undoubtedly the most benefited with OTG breaker, the reason is the possibility to cause great damage and ease of connecting standing 4, or 4~MS for additional chip damage on midscreen or corner.

- Idea of dive kick after double kiss: WLK_EdwarD
- Combo configuration and OTG breaker by me

I Aa refers hope you like
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[Chaosphere]

Some of these combos are very difficult to do, I want only to show the combo possibilities and highest damage possible with OTG. Dive kick after breaker is really complicated, the most effective in that case is: standing 4~cartwheel, or 4~MS variants.

Sonya is undoubtedly the most benefited with OTG breaker, the reason is the possibility to cause great damage and ease of connecting standing 4, or 4~MS for additional chip damage on midscreen or corner.

- Idea of dive kick after double kiss: WLK_EdwarD
- Combo configuration and OTG breaker by me

I Aa refers hope you like
Www

Aaaaaassassin sass assess a

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2

 

[Chaosphere]

Some of these combos are very difficult to do, I want only to show the combo possibilities and highest damage possible with OTG. Dive kick after breaker is really complicated, the most effective in that case is: standing 4~cartwheel, or 4~MS variants.

Sonya is undoubtedly the most benefited with OTG breaker, the reason is the possibility to cause great damage and ease of connecting standing 4, or 4~MS for additional chip damage on midscreen or corner.

- Idea of dive kick after double kiss: WLK_EdwarD
- Combo configuration and OTG breaker by me

I Aa refers hope you like
Www

Aaaaaassassin sass assess a

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