Someone explain this to me

[boba_buster]

Robin set to reversal sword spin
(9 frames)
Starfires 23 is -6
Why is d1 not coming out and she getting hit with sword spin

 

[neveradestroyer]

The game balance is fantastic, and She was nerfed already. Nothing to see here folks

 

[Killphil]

Probably -6 from the first hit of that move she's doing. I believe the same issue was present in mkx, although it may have been fixed.

 

[boba_buster]

Probably -6 from the first hit of that move she's doing. I believe the same issue was present in mkx, although it may have been fixed.

No I jump tested , it's -6

 

[Baconlord]

The game balance is fantastic, and She was nerfed already. Nothing to see here folks

Do you ever take a break from shit posting

 

[Jhonnykiller45]

Robin set to reversal sword spin
(9 frames)
Starfires 23 is -6
Why is d1 not coming out and she getting hit with sword spin

I'm guessing it's autoblock causing that. Did you try timing d1 to make sure that it would get hit by the sword spin?

Do you ever take a break from shit posting

That was a rhetorical quesiton yeah?

 

[xKhaoTik]

I think I have a feeling what you're asking and if I'm right then LOL


But are you asking why is robins sword flip coming out before starfires d1?

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

I don't get this... What is the issue here?

 

[xKhaoTik]

Fuck it I'll just say it.


STOP MASHING!!

You're -6 after 23. If you try to go for a d1, which is 6f, you're already at a -6 disadvantage, meaning your d1 will become 12f. Robin's flip, which is 9f, will become 3f since he's +6 after blocking 23.

3f is 4x faster than 12f, which is why the flip comes out before the d1.

Bruuuhhhh lol

 

[navaroNe]

I think what he's saying is why isn't starfires d1 coming out when he's mashing it while shes -6 which would open her up to be hit by the sword flip?

 

[TyCarter35]

U can't mash when you are minus.
















Only Robins can do that

 

[x TeeJay o]

Lmfaooooooo I've seen it all. Nuke us already North Korea

 

[Juggs]

Fuck it I'll just say it.


STOP MASHING!!

You're -6 after 23. If you try to go for a d1, which is 6f, you're already at a -6 disadvantage, meaning your d1 will become 12f. Robin's flip, which is 9f, will become 3f since he's +6 after blocking 23.

3f is 4x faster than 12f, which is why the flip comes out before the d1.

Bruuuhhhh lol

I mean you didn't have to be a dick about it, lol.

But yeah, there's your explanation. @boba_buster

 

[boba_buster]

I think what he's saying is why isn't starfires d1 coming out when he's mashing it while shes -6 which would open her up to be hit by the sword flip?

That's what I'm getting at
Why does it auto block instead of letting the d1 come out and her get wrecked for mashing buttons?!?

 

[boba_buster]

She's -6 with a 6 frame d1 (12frames) vs a 9 frame reversal
So there should be 3 frames for the d1 to "start up" and get hit befor the active frames start
So why is the game stopping the d1 from starting is my question??

 

[Rooks]

You're -6 after 23. If you try to go for a d1, which is 6f, you're already at a -6 disadvantage, meaning your d1 will become 12f. Robin's flip, which is 9f, will become 3f since he's +6 after blocking 23.

Maybe another explanation will help. After 23 you are -6 making your d1 technically takes 12f, -6 from recovery and the actual 6 frames it takes to start up. Robin is at advantage 6f, which is technically the -6 penalty on your character. So while you have to wait the 6 frames to attack Robin does not, meaning the first 6 frames of his 9f are spent during YOUR recovery, effectually making it a 3f which beats your 6f d1.

 

[Rooks]

She's -6 with a 6 frame d1 (12frames) vs a 9 frame reversal
So there should be 3 frames for the d1 to "start up" and get hit befor the active frames start
So why is the game stopping the d1 from starting is my question??

You are not taking into account that Robin is "+6" after blocking your attack. The truth is he is not really plus 6 but that he is not effected by the -6 that your character is so he can start acting 6 frames faster than you can, effectively being +6.

 

[gongfuren]

Maybe another explanation will help. After 23 you are -6 making your d1 technically takes 12f, -6 from recovery and the actual 6 frames it takes to start up. Robin is at advantage 6f, which is technically the -6 penalty on your character. So while you have to wait the 6 frames to attack Robin does not, meaning the first 6 frames of his 9f are spent during YOUR recovery, effectually making it a 3f which beats your 6f d1.

No, he's saying that it should beat his d1, but the d1 isn't coming out. The game is forcing him to block even though he's mashing out d1.

 

[boba_buster]

Y'all are confusing yourselves with bad math

At -6 she has 3 frames of free movement befor the 9 frame reversals first active frame
So why doesn't her d1 begin the animation and get her hit by the dp?
She should be 3 frames into the animation when the first active frame of robins reversal makes contact
So my question really is , what is the mechanic that governs this reaction and how does it work?

 

[xKhaoTik]

Y'all are confusing yourselves with bad math

At -6 she has 3 frames of free movement befor the 9 frame reversals first active frame
So why doesn't her d1 begin the animation and get her hit by the dp?
She should be 3 frames into the animation when the first active frame of robins reversal makes contact
So my question really is , what is the mechanic that governs this reaction and how does it work?

The real question is why are you mashing when it's clearly not your turn?

And LOL at bad math

 

[gongfuren]

The real question is why are you mashing when it's clearly not your turn?

And LOL at bad math

No, the real question is if this is a built-in option select to protect yourself from the opponent's reversal while you're mashing when negative.

 

[myri]

No but he does raise an interesting point, one of the things about this game is that you can actually mash while blocking and be completely fine, this works against Supergirl really effectively in her b123 string. You can block b123 and mash your d1 and if the Supergirl player ends their string at b1 or b12 then you will get a guaranteed d1 because they are minus enough right?

Makes sense, apart from the fact that you can mash while your opponent is hitting you and still block. They can mash d1 for the entire string and if the Supergirl player commits to b123 then the opponent is safe despite the fact that they are using inputs.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that doesn't seem like it should be a thing that happens in this game. If you mash when minus and your opponent executes a faster reversal then you should get hit instead of blocking.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

I can't do frame date math for shit and even I get why it doesn't work.

It isn't SUPPOSED to work.
By doing 23 to begin with, you've reached the point of "Do not mash, for any reason, at all."
Putting yourself in negative frames = you can't mash your way out of it.

Doctor'ed.

 

[Marinjuana]

The real question is why are you mashing when it's clearly not your turn?

And LOL at bad math

He wants to know why Starfire isn't being punished for mashing d1 when she's -6, she's auto blocking it despite him mashing d1 in the video to highlight his problem.

 

[FL Rushdown]

I like how everyone just assumed this guy was an idiot instead of reading/watching.