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A F0xy Grampa

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its like Kabal NDC game, but a lot weaker.

Every time skarlet ends with a empty dash, you should retaliate with low pokes, instead of high or mids, if you don't have a mid or high faster than 12f her dodging normal will be used to trade and avoid the high and punish the character in process, that is why is advised to retaliate with lows, because her fastest string will hit high at 10f first before hits mid again, and her mid only will hit after 13 frames. Beware because she is able to block after some of this strings.
F4 isin't that safe and she can be punished from it the same way kabal can.
I understand how to fight Skarlet, my issue is with her frame data not working with how the game should work.
Theres literally no point in poking Skarlet during her RD offense because her normals are so slow, and she'll be negative after empty RD, why poke and give yourself a useless +3 when you're already + and have advantage to do a string? This is where sometimes she gets another string, even though she's negative and I've used a move 10f or faster (Kenshi 114, Rain 4, KL 2, Cage F3)

RD game isn't anything like NDCs IMO, NDCS give advantage, RD gives 5050s or a blockstring on a guess, just like Sonyas MS attacks do.

NDC can be used for guaranteed repeated offense AS WELL AS 5050s. RD & MS dont do that.
 

REDRUM

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very nice work here Eddy Wang


Im sure I missed it but whats that main BNB string that the Skarlet players abuse (its like 5 or 6 hits and safe, I think) ????
 

Eddy Wang

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I understand how to fight Skarlet, my issue is with her frame data not working with how the game should work.
Theres literally no point in poking Skarlet during her RD offense because her normals are so slow, and she'll be negative after empty RD, why poke and give yourself a useless +3 when you're already + and have advantage to do a string? This is where sometimes she gets another string, even though she's negative and I've used a move 10f or faster (Kenshi 114, Rain 4, KL 2, Cage F3)

RD game isn't anything like NDCs IMO, NDCS give advantage, RD gives 5050s or a blockstring on a guess, just like Sonyas MS attacks do.

NDC can be used for guaranteed repeated offense AS WELL AS 5050s. RD & MS dont do that.
Maybe is because you're playing online a lot, because DarkSlayerSmith can string me on block everytime he decides to.

very nice work here Eddy Wang


Im sure I missed it but whats that main BNB string that the Skarlet players abuse (its like 5 or 6 hits and safe, I think) ????
What Main BnB? can you list it?
 

REDRUM

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Maybe is because you're playing online a lot, because DarkSlayerSmith can string me on block everytime he decides to.


What Main BnB? can you list it?

no Idea im asking you.... lol Its the one that Skarlet use alot, its pretty long and builds up meter and does good chip

I wanted to know the inputs
 

AssassiN

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very nice work here Eddy Wang


Im sure I missed it but whats that main BNB string that the Skarlet players abuse (its like 5 or 6 hits and safe, I think) ????
To be fair, people should be thanking RedRaptor10 as well. Eddy and RedRaptor did the content, Glortor and RedRaptor made it pretty while the other Skarlet's helped out a bit by answering questions and such.

F2121+2 is the string you're looking for, it's not safe(-14 on block) but can be made safe by canceling into slide(-3 on block).
 

Vagrant

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Skarlet actually reminds me alot of sonya reading some of this stuff.

I'm gonna learn her on the side and see how I like her.
 

ryublaze

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I thought "Release the Kraken" was a joke lol can we please change it to The Ultimate Skarlet Guide? Thanks.

Assassin is correct. The 1st draft of the guide was done by Eddy Wang . Then GLoRToR revised it for a 2nd draft. Then I revised it for final draft. Overall, half of the content was done by Eddy and the other half was done by me. I literally spent like 1 or 2 weeks sitting at my computer all day errday working on this xD. It wasn't just us though, we had the help of the entire Skarlet community as well. It was really hard working on this guide cuz there were a lot of disagreements, but in the end we got it all sorted out.

This project actually started in October 2012 and finally we were able to release it. It's not done yet though. We still need to add high quality videos, finish the combos section, and add an "other" section for links to other useful threads like frame data. Something I want to point out is that we used the colors scarlet and crimson so they fit the character and are easy to read on both TYM themes. There was an issue we had with editting PMs cuz the formatting got all messed up and we couldn't edit posts after 5 min. So we used an alternative by editting a previous thread in the Skarlet forum and keeping it a secret.
 

ryublaze

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I'm not talking about poking.

The options you have against Skarlets slide are these:

- Block low or overhead for the slide or OH slice
- Mash out a string - expecting the opponent to empty red dash into another string, where they put themselves at disadvantage, Skarlet doesnt get infinite free strings, well she shouldnt... This is where the problems start. You make the right read that they want to do another string, but they get another string anyway.
- Armour the slide.

Leave poking outta this argument it has no place in her RD mixups. NO LOW POKES.
You dont low poke her because theres no point, she SHOULD be negative and SHOULD have to block your string after an empty RD if you predict it.
F2,1,2,1+2 into slide can't be interrupted cuz slide comes out on the 20th frame and it has +25 cancel advantage. You're right that you should start a string if she does empty red dash cuz if she wants to start another string chances are she isn't blocking so you get a free combo. Poking isn't bad though cuz what if she does EX Red Dash? you can bait it with pokes and be able to block in time unless your string has fast recovery.

The only thing I can think of is that the Skarlet you're playing is doing slide or up slash or whatever at different times so sometimes you can interrupt and sometimes you can't. Online also plays a huge role in this cuz of lag. To answer your question about playing good Skarlets, I've played Scar online before and it's really hard fighting Skarlet online.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
I thought "Release the Kraken" was a joke lol can we please change it to The Ultimate Skarlet Guide? Thanks.

Assassin is correct. The 1st draft of the guide was done by Eddy Wang . Then GLoRToR revised it for a 2nd draft. Then I revised it for final draft. Overall, half of the content was done by Eddy and the other half was done by me. I literally spent like 1 or 2 weeks sitting at my computer all day errday working on this xD. It wasn't just us though, we had the help of the entire Skarlet community as well. It was really hard working on this guide cuz there were a lot of disagreements, but in the end we got it all sorted out.

This project actually started in October 2012 and finally we were able to release it. It's not done yet though. We still need to add high quality videos, finish the combos section, and add an "other" section for links to other useful threads like frame data. Something I want to point out is that we used the colors scarlet and crimson so they fit the character and are easy to read on both TYM themes. There was an issue we had with editting PMs cuz the formatting got all messed up and we couldn't edit posts after 5 min. So we used an alternative by editting a previous thread in the Skarlet forum and keeping it a secret.
I think the kraken name is fine, does it really have to be so serious? lol. I can change it back to the Ultimate guide if you like :p

We're all humans red, if we can all sort it out well it was because we could see what was the best for the guide ^^ and i'm actually glad we all ended up in agreement, now that i look back those salty moments are kinda hilarious to me lol
 

ryublaze

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I think the kraken name is fine, does it really have to be so serious? lol. I can change it back to the Ultimate guide if you like :p

We're all humans red, if we can all sort it out well it was because we could see what was the best for the guide ^^ and i'm actually glad we all ended up in agreement, now that i look back those salty moments are kinda hilarious to me lol
Yes I would like it to be called The Ultimate Skarlet Guide. :)
 

AssassiN

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F2,1,2,1+2 into slide can't be interrupted cuz slide comes out on the 20th frame and it has +25 cancel advantage. You're right that you should start a string if she does empty red dash cuz if she wants to start another string chances are she isn't blocking so you get a free combo. Poking isn't bad though cuz what if she does EX Red Dash? you can bait it with pokes and be able to block in time unless your string has fast recovery.

The only thing I can think of is that the Skarlet you're playing is doing slide or up slash or whatever at different times so sometimes you can interrupt and sometimes you can't. Online also plays a huge role in this cuz of lag. To answer your question about playing good Skarlets, I've played Scar online before and it's really hard fighting Skarlet online.
He doesn't have problems with that, his issues lie with the fact that Skarlet is negative in certain situations(ERD's on block and such) and he inputs a certain fast string like Cage's 9-frame "F3" to take over the pressure but Skarlet is still faster with her 10-frame "1" even though Skarlet is at like -4.
He doesn't understand why this happens, the blame could be put at his side not being fast enough or there may be a glitch where she gets randomly gets more cancel advantage.
 

ryublaze

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He doesn't have problems with that, his issues lie with the fact that Skarlet is negative in certain situations(ERD's on block and such) and he inputs a certain fast string like Cage's 9-frame "F3" to take over the pressure but Skarlet is still faster with her 10-frame "1" even though Skarlet is at like -4.
He doesn't understand why this happens, the blame could be put at his side not being fast enough or there may be a glitch where she gets randomly gets more cancel advantage.
There is the possibility of inputting his string too early where he is still at disadvantage so his string doesn't come out, or inputting it too late. It's a really tight window especially if it's done online. I can't even armor out of the 2 frame gap from b1,1,f4,rd~slide offline lol.
 

xenogorgeous

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damn !! what a hell of good ultimate Skarlet guide here !! congratulations, man , good job !! :D
 
This player is The mother of all problems down here in Angola. Thanks to Eddy Wang the bastard :). Mate you have been doing a great job of pushing the Angolan MK community forward and its such a pleasure to see your work getting recognised abroad amongst the best players. People ought to see your Skarlet on the big scene.
Finally...Seriously guys you need to post a "How to beat Skarlet" for dummies will you. I almost had enough of having my ass handed to me on a silver plate...repeatedly.
RedRaptor10 and GLoRToR, many thanks to you too guys. It's a great guide