Should Breakaway be moved to a different input to prevent accidental breakaways? (Poll)

[scrubjesus111]

Several people have suggested moving breakaway from RT (block) to LT (stance-switch) to prevent breakaways from happening accidentally. Do you agree with this?

 

[M2Dave]

I say yes.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Yes, I’d very much welcome this change. The amount of times you get hit by a projectile and try and late block only to immediately breakaway is frustratingly uncountable.

Even if they just give us a menu option to change it if we want to, so that players already used to block don’t have to change if they don’t want to.

 

[candiesli]

Hell yeah !

 

[kingjolly]

yes. Off topic...Am I the only one that would accidentally use breaker in MK9 and X when I only meant to block?

 

[Trustful_Whale]

Yes. It literally could have gone to any other input and it would be better than Block.
I am at a loss as to how this decision was made, tbh. I hope changing it isn't too complicated but it probably is.

 

[Mandolore1123]

They should have put it on stance change. Would have made life much easier.

 

[Demon_0]

I don't see why you'd say no to this. It prevents accidental Breakaways and has no downside.

While they're at it, they should make Breakaway wakeups delay only.

 

[Zgf]

Of course it should, but we all know it won't happen. Especially not this late into the game, lol.

 

[NeroOps]

It wouldn't be a bad change but why are you mashing the block button while you're being juggled airborne if you have no reason to breakaway?

 

[Demon_0]

It wouldn't be a bad change but why are you mashing the block button while you're being juggled airborne if you have no reason to breakaway?

Its not that. For instance, you try to crouch block Subby's Slide (just too late) and, oops, you used Breakaway.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

It wouldn't be a bad change but why are you mashing the block button while you're being juggled airborne if you have no reason to breakaway?

That isn't what happens. What happens is you're trying to fight someone like Sub Zero, approaching while crouch blocking, and at some point he throws out a yolo slide, you crouch block too late and the game reads it as a breakaway.

 

[DixieFlatline78]

As much as I like this game there are so many silly oversights like this.

 

[craftycheese]

This may be one of the only things we all can agree on for this game

 

[Tony at Home]

No. I love losing all my defensive meter anytime Sub Zero hits me with slide.

 

[Bucketfeet]

Would much prefer up + block

 

[DixieFlatline78]

Would much prefer up + block

What if breakaway caused you to pop up in the air. You would have to tee yourself up for armor breaks, you'd take longer to recover, but you could at least avoid unavoidable D2s and a lot of 100% unbreakable combos

 

[DavesHotnJuicy]

That isn't what happens. What happens is you're trying to fight someone like Sub Zero, approaching while crouch blocking, and at some point he throws out a yolo slide, you crouch block too late and the game reads it as a breakaway.

Or even when you fight sindel and she throws out MB low projectile and it catches you!!

 

[colby4898]

yes. Off topic...Am I the only one that would accidentally use breaker in MK9 and X when I only meant to block?

I wouldnt do that but I would accidentally ex a move sometimes when I want to block. Mostly Quan Chi runes. Id whiff one, try to block and get the ex.

 

[Pyrosis]

I would welcome this change but would much prefer to see a change that ensures you don't get punished just because the opponent did breakaway at the right timing. Tons of specials just leave you just standing there long enough for the opponent to just get up and full combo you. Kano's Snakebite is a good example... If you commit to it cause you want to confirm into a combo they can just breakaway when during it and get a full punish.

It's ignorant that you get punished for hit confirming correctly.

 

[ismael4790]

Well, interactable button is still the same button as meterburn button, so don't get your hopes up.

 

[scrubjesus111]

@Pyrosis IMO that one’s more debatable because it’s clearly intentional design, otherwise they’d just have a classic breaker like in MKX and 9. Would make for an interesting poll thread to see how people feel - does it add depth or is it more frustrating than its worth?

Well, interactable button is still the same button as meterburn button, so don't get your hopes up.

I think it was @Trustful_Whale who told me that meterburn was originally going to be a face button input unique to each special move, like Jax’s heated arms projectiles, but the community balked at that and so NRS put it on the interact button. I don’t think there’s a similar explanation for the breakaway input - beats me why they put it on block.

 

[ismael4790]

@Pyrosis IMO that one’s more debatable because it’s clearly intentional design, otherwise they’d just have a classic breaker like in MKX and 9. Would make for an interesting poll thread to see how people feel - does it add depth or is it more frustrating than its worth?


I think it was @Trustful_Whale who told me that meterburn was originally going to be a face button input unique to each special move, like Jax’s heated arms projectiles, but the community balked at that and so NRS put it on the interact button. I don’t think there’s a similar explanation for the breakaway input - beats me why they put it on block.

Iirc in the version available at the reveal event, the meterburns were still done with a specific input for each movement, yes.

It's still puzzling why they don't use the stance switch button for anything else than a useless stance switch or activating fatal blow, when using the same button for different things (like it's happening with block/breakaway or meterburn/interactables) is just bad design that guarantees problems that could be avoided by using another button like that one.

 

[scrubjesus111]

@ismael4790 Couldn’t agree more

 

[Pan1cMode]

Iirc in the version available at the reveal event, the meterburns were still done with a specific input for each movement, yes.

It's still puzzling why they don't use the stance switch button for anything else than a useless stance switch or activating fatal blow, when using the same button for different things (like it's happening with block/breakaway or meterburn/interactables) is just bad design that guarantees problems that could be avoided by using another button like that one.

Stance switch is used for cancels, delayed wakeup, and wakeup roll. It isn’t completely useless.

I just think it makes more sense for it to also have breakaway mapped to it as well.

And on the note of MB being mapped to interact, I’m much happier about it being on interact than block. In MKX there were many times I’d accidentally enhance a move when I wanted to block.